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Pac-12 Coach most on the hot seat?

Pac-12 Coach Most on the Hot Seat

  • Ken Bone - Washington State

    Votes: 7 26.9%

  • Johnny Dawkins - Stanford

    Votes: 6 23.1%

  • Craig Robinson - Oregon State

    Votes: 12 46.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Total voters
    26
Buffnik

Buffnik

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It's really just a Top 3 at risk of getting fired (though long-term contracts could $ave $ome job$), but I'm not sure that anyone except CU and Cal are completely satisfied with the job its coach is doing.

Howland could hear some noise if the Bruins flame out in the post-season. And there are going to be some serious rumblings in Seattle if Romar doesn't right the ship next season. The natives could even get restless in Tucson if Miller doesn't do something with the talent he has recruited - that one might be a couple years off, though.
 
How can Robinson not be? I get that Oregon State has sucked balls for 20 years, but is the CBI as a ceiling really acceptable for any BCS program?

At least Bone didn't have a losing season until this year.

Dawkins no NCAA Tournaments in 5 years if they don't make it this year.

Miller is not going to be a long term coach in Tucson. JMHO. Their expectations are ridiculous and it will catch up with him.
 
Buffnik said:
It's really just a Top 3 at risk of getting fired (though long-term contracts could $ave $ome job$), but I'm not sure that anyone except CU and Cal are completely satisfied with the job its coach is doing.

Howland could hear some noise if the Bruins flame out in the post-season. And there are going to be some serious rumblings in Seattle if Romar doesn't right the ship next season. The natives could even get restless in Tucson if Miller doesn't do something with the talent he has recruited - that one might be a couple years off, though.
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I have to think Miller is in decent shape at UofA, he turned down Maryland after GW retired and he's an east coast guy. Didn't he get an extension, raise, bigger buyout out of that?

Howland supposedly had to make the tourney this year to keep his job, he did that. I think an early exit and he'll be in somewhat trouble. I mean it's UCLA, the only place which might be tougher is Kentucky. They still think they should be fielding teams like they did in the 70s.

Oregon isn't OK with Dana Altman?
 
absinthe said:
Cantu has to be there after the recent USC brawling issues.
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I didn't include him because he was never going to get the "interim" label removed with anything short of a national title. USC fired Kevin O'Neill because they didn't want to risk him saving his job with a good performance in conference play. Cantu's just a fill-in who is auditioning for other potential job openings (and may have ****ed himself this weekend).
 
cubuffs85 said:
I have to think Miller is in decent shape at UofA, he turned down Maryland after GW retired and he's an east coast guy. Didn't he get an extension, raise, bigger buyout out of that?

Howland supposedly had to make the tourney this year to keep his job, he did that. I think an early exit and he'll be in somewhat trouble. I mean it's UCLA, the only place which might be tougher is Kentucky. They still think they should be fielding teams like they did in the 70s.

Oregon isn't OK with Dana Altman?
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I think they were and then it has fallen off. Pressure might be low since it's a football school, but they're also bandwagon fans that get over-excited about the hype. As well as he did this year on the whole, if late season struggles continue and flow into next season I think he could have very little job security in a hurry. I might be wrong on that one, but I don't see his security any higher than Herb Sendek's.
 
absinthe said:
Cantu has to be there after the recent USC brawling issues.
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Barring an unforeseen Tourney run and I don't think they even get in, he's gone to begin with. Pat Haden seems to want a big name. Russ Pennell went to the Elite 8 at UofA and that couldn't get him the permanent job.
 
Buffnik said:
I think they were and then it has fallen off. Pressure might be low since it's a football school, but they're also bandwagon fans that get over-excited about the hype. As well as he did this year on the whole, if late season struggles continue and flow into next season I think he could have very little job security in a hurry. I might be wrong on that one, but I don't see his security any higher than Herb Sendek's.
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How does Mr. Knight feel about him?
 
CVilleBuff said:
How can Robinson not be? I get that Oregon State has sucked balls for 20 years, but is the CBI as a ceiling really acceptable for any BCS program?

At least Bone didn't have a losing season until this year.

Dawkins no NCAA Tournaments in 5 years if they don't make it this year.

Miller is not going to be a long term coach in Tucson. JMHO. Their expectations are ridiculous and it will catch up with him.
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I can see Craig Robinson gone, they're trending in the wrong direction. He's been there for a relatively long time there. I think making the NIT would've been enough to keep his job.

As I've said before Johnny Dawkins was before he took the Stanford job the frontrunner to be Coach K's eventual successor, I don't think so anymore. I think expectations at Stanford are somewhat tempered, they don't exactly expect to be competing for titles every year. But I have to believe unless they want to become the west coast version of Northwestern, that they'll have to make it pretty soon.
 
Dawkins made the miscalculation of saying before the season that this was his most talented team and setting very high expectations. He has quickly gone from building toward something to under-achieving.
 
Buffnik said:
Dawkins made the miscalculation of saying before the season that this was his most talented team and setting very high expectations. He has quickly gone from building toward something to under-achieving.
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You hear that so much from coaches though, "best team I've coached," "better than my _____ championship team." Unless the coach is really proven, it looks bad if you're in your 3-5th year at a school and say anything else.
 
Surprised Larry Krystowiak's name isn't up there. Two years at the bottom of the conference, and I don't really see them getting much better. They're pesky, but certainly not a team that's going to challenge for any titles in the near future. Utah was a basketball school long before it was a football school.
 
sackman said:
Surprised Larry Krystowiak's name isn't up there. Two years at the bottom of the conference, and I don't really see them getting much better. They're pesky, but certainly not a team that's going to challenge for any titles in the near future. Utah was a basketball school long before it was a football school.
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They did better towards the end of the year, you typically get atleast three years. So I think they're will be more expected next year.
 
sackman said:
Surprised Larry Krystowiak's name isn't up there. Two years at the bottom of the conference, and I don't really see them getting much better. They're pesky, but certainly not a team that's going to challenge for any titles in the near future. Utah was a basketball school long before it was a football school.
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It was a rebuild for the ages. Hard to even describe how bare the cupboard was. The fact he's had Utah so pesky is testament to his coaching. If there was ever full justification for a guy deserving 5 years, it's this. I have my doubts that the ceiling under him will ever be better than that pesky 16-18 win team, max, but he deserves time. JMHO.
 
sackman said:
Surprised Larry Krystowiak's name isn't up there. Two years at the bottom of the conference, and I don't really see them getting much better. They're pesky, but certainly not a team that's going to challenge for any titles in the near future. Utah was a basketball school long before it was a football school.
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Keeping Loveridge home in the 2012 recruiting class was huge for him. I think everyone there understood it was a monumental rebuilding project, too. They've been close in a lot of games and won more this year. They're definitely getting better.
 
Buffnik said:
Keeping Loveridge home in the 2012 recruiting class was huge for him. I think everyone there understood it was a monumental rebuilding project, too. They've been close in a lot of games and won more this year. They're definitely getting better.
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Serious question: Can Utah really ever be a top half of the league team? I just don't see it. With UCLA, UA, CU, Cal, UO and UW all at the top of the league, how does a team like Utah or Wazzou ever break into that group?
 
sackman said:
Serious question: Can Utah really ever be a top half of the league team? I just don't see it. With UCLA, UA, CU, Cal, UO and UW all at the top of the league, how does a team like Utah or Wazzou ever break into that group?
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If we go by basketball tradition in the Pac-12, Utah has a strong case for 3rd behind UCLA and Zona. It's going to be tough, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Utes became a true basketball rival.
 
sackman said:
Serious question: Can Utah really ever be a top half of the league team? I just don't see it. With UCLA, UA, CU, Cal, UO and UW all at the top of the league, how does a team like Utah or Wazzou ever break into that group?
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Umm this stuff goes in cycles, 5 years ago, you would never think CU could ever realistically compete more than a nice run every 4-5 years.
 
Buffnik said:
If we go by basketball tradition in the Pac-12, Utah has a strong case for 3rd behind UCLA and Zona. It's going to be tough, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Utes became a true basketball rival.
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With the way, they set-up it makes the most sense for us. Right now, SSS and all, I think UofA is our "rival."
 
Buffnik said:
If we go by basketball tradition in the Pac-12, Utah has a strong case for 3rd behind UCLA and Zona. It's going to be tough, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Utes became a true basketball rival.
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Undoubtedly 3rd. Something like 26 appearances. Championship game in 98. Sweet 16 as recently as 2005. Proud tradition. They'll be back, someday
 
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