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Pac 12 Network and what pisses me off...

4DemBuffs

4DemBuffs

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i live in south carolina and have since 2002. every friggin CU game that has been on TV, i have been able to watch sitting on my couch. without exception.

now, we have this great new deal for all of this money for the conference, and i have no idea if i will be able to watch a single CU conference game.

so, what exactly is in it for the fan? yeah! CU gets tons more money but i cant watch a game? how does this set up make things better for the fan if, what?, 30% of us cant even watch a game?

MB talks about engaging the alumni and scott talks about expanding the reach of the conference but then if you are east of the mississippi, you dont get to see ****? how in the world does this make sense.

if anything they should be making it easier for us to get games on the east coast if they truely want to expand interest in the conference.

what the hell good is it going to be to the conference if no media writers in the east can catch a USC or Oregon game?

i love the fact that CU is now in the pac 12. for the long term, it is a much better fit. but, it is also pissing me off that the pac 12 is trying to make it so difficult for me to catch a CU game.

i have never, ever had that problem before.

i understand that its all money driven and that puts fans in spot #2. i just dont have to like it.

really? the pac 12 cant do all they can in thier power to make sure that the fans on the east coast can get to see thier team play?

really?

its really pissing me off.
 
The Pac 12 network really doesn't change what was going on before with respect to television coverage on the channels you are used to. Tier 1 and 2 TV rights with ABC/ESPN and Fox Networks are probably better than they were before which means you can still see probably the same amount of games on the same old channels (USC-Oregon will be on a nationally televised Tier 1 channel guaranteed). What it does is provide coverage for is games that would not have previously been televised.

Do you honestly thing that the Pac 12 Network doesn't want to be in every home possible? They have to negotiate with carriers that have limited shelf space, and the farther from the conference footprint, the harder sell it is. I think that you will not see a drop off in the number of Colorado games you used to see, and with a little patience (and bugging your carrier), you will see the Pac 12 network soon enough in your area.
 
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buffedup said:
The Pac 12 network really doesn't change what was going on before with respect to television coverage on the channels you are used to. Tier 1 and 2 TV rights with ABC/ESPN and Fox Networks are probably better than they were before which means you can still see probably the same amount of games on the same old channels (USC-Oregon will be on a nationally televised Tier 1 channel guaranteed). What it does is provide coverage for is games that would not have previously been televised.

Do you honestly thing that the Pac 12 Network doesn't want to be in every home possible? They have to negotiate with carriers that have limited shelf space, and the farther from the conference footprint, the harder sell it is. I think that you will not see a drop off in the number of Colorado games you used to see, and with a little patience (and bugging your carrier), you will see the Pac 12 network soon enough in your area.
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points taken and agreed with. however, on the bolded part, this is a loser for fans of teams that are not power house pac 12 teams. as bad as CU was over the last decade, i still was able to watch every flipping game that was on TV here in SC. every damn one. this year? its not looking like it. and i dont even know that i can switch to charter cable to get the pac 12 network.

so, for those of us who are fans of teams other than oregon, usc, stanford in the east, how is this deal benifiting us? when we cant see our team play, what exactly are we getting out of the new pac 12 deal?

jack ****ing **** is what.
 
What the first guy said. I was able to watch every single game last year from my couch. Cox doesn't have the channel in my area. Verizon (fios) doesn't have it. DirecTV doesn't. Dish doesn't. and I am officially out of possible media outlets.

I thought the original deal with Cox was they would at least carry the main network nationally - so that was always my backup plan if DirecTV didn't come through (current provider). But no, they don't have it, so now - no back up plan. I can't even credibly threaten to leave DTV for a carrier that has it, because no one does.

Getting more and more worried/pissed off by the day...
 
Not too long after the Pac expanded Scott started promoting the conference for more nationwide exposure and even held a media event in NYC. In order to help make that happen he needs to ensure that this network ends up on DTV. If the Big 10 Network and the Mtn can end up on DTV then the Pac 12 and Scott have no excuses for not getting this network on DTV. It would be a major setback for the conference if their network only ends up on various cable outlets outside the conference footprint.

Having said that, I think the Pac network will end up on DTV, it's just a matter of when.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
Not too long after the Pac expanded Scott started promoting the conference for more nationwide exposure and even held a media event in NYC. In order to help make that happen he needs to ensure that this network ends up on DTV. If the Big 10 Network and the Mtn can end up on DTV then the Pac 12 and Scott have no excuses for not getting this network on DTV. It would be a major setback for the conference if their network only ends up on various cable outlets outside the conference footprint.

Having said that, I think the Pac network will end up on DTV, it's just a matter of when.
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Despite my previous tongue in cheek response, I have to agree with you Carolina.

It just makes too much sense to offer all Pac 12 programming for $12 a month as they do the other sports packages. It may take awhile, but they will get there.
 
It took several years before the Big10 Network was available nationally. I think the Pac-12 will get there by 2013.
 
I remember even a few years ago I was listening to some road games on a radio and I live in the Denver metro area. Just getting all games would be an improvement.
 
4DemBuffs said:
MB talks about engaging the alumni and scott talks about expanding the reach of the conference but then if you are east of the mississippi, you dont get to see ****? how in the world does this make sense.
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I'm not a huge MB fan, but he did well by getting us in the PAC. Scott is our savior. Nothing but love to him. Be patient. This may be painful in the short run. But it will be a win very soon, I'd bet. There will be/is pressure on DTV and/or Dish to be the first to pick it up, I believe.
 
I'm actually sort of wondering how much pressure the east coast alumni associations can/will exert. The watch parties are the biggest events of the year - and there are some large and fairly active alumni associations (DC and Boston have pretty solid numbers - the DC contingent actually takes over two bars in different parts of the city). If there's no coverage of a lot of games, it will hit the participation numbers in the local chapters pretty hard...
 
Duff Man said:
Sounds like you just want to bitch.
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sure. that is part of it. but, if i knew i was going to be able to watch all CU games, what would i have to bitch about?

sure, i could find something. :smile2:

that is not the point though. when i hear talk about engaging alumni on the east coast and scott talking about expanding the reach and exposiure of the pac 12 and i cant watch a damn CU conference game out here, those words ring a bit hollow. you dont live out here so you dont have to worry about that. does not make it right. especially when for a decade, i have been able to sit on my couch and watch every damn CU game that has been on TV. and this new deal is supposed to be so great for everyone. well, unless you dont get the channels. great....
 
Got to tell you that it is very disappointing that I can't even threaten to switch to Cox. It doesn't look as if Cox carries P12N in Virginia.
 
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Buffnik said:
Only available live if you're a subscriber to a network that is televising the game.
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and if DTV does not pick it up and charter cable here in SC does not pick it up.....

i get jack ****.

thanks. way to look out for the fans, mr scott. way to expand that footprint. way to get the east coast media involved in your enterprise. smart move right there.
 
My cable provider in NYC and Western Mass. has the PAC 12 network. :nod:
 
4DemBuffs said:
and if DTV does not pick it up and charter cable here in SC does not pick it up.....

i get jack ****.

thanks. way to look out for the fans, mr scott. way to expand that footprint. way to get the east coast media involved in your enterprise. smart move right there.
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You could be a uTerus fan. I hear their network is picked up pretty much everywhere.
 
4DemBuffs said:
and if DTV does not pick it up and charter cable here in SC does not pick it up.....

i get jack ****.

thanks. way to look out for the fans, mr scott. way to expand that footprint. way to get the east coast media involved in your enterprise. smart move right there.
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jesus christ dude... its called patience... practice some
 
Perhaps what the Buffs need to have a good season is 4DB to not be able to see the games.
 
question - if i use a verizon 4g hotspot when i'm away for work, will i be able to stream live on the website?
 
I just watched Washington State game from last season and the broadcast was ****ed up...the screen was blurry and it looked like the edges were magnified. pack 12 says that cox Las Vegas has 334 and 1334 (digital) but 1334 is missing from my channel guide. I hope they clean this **** up.
 
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