PAC 12 Win Shares - Who do the stats say are the POY, OFF POY and DEF POY?

[jgisland]

I have been working on Win Shares for the P12 but sped up the finishing upon today's announcement of Jorge Gutierrez being named the P12 POY and Def POY. So what do the stats say? Who was the most valuable to their team overall, on the offensive end, on the defensive end?

Here are the results: (FYI I massaged the data a little bit to exclude the Utah Players, they were so bad that Washburn and Martin looked good b/c the rest were so bad)

Win Shares Player of the Year: Brock Motum

Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Brock Motum	4.04	39.99	0.87	16.35	4.91	31.85
Trent Lockett	2.23	24.57	0.04	15.49	2.27	24.34
Andre Roberson	1.62	17.96	2.97	28.70	4.59	23.71
Josh Owens	2.48	31.91	2.49	17.53	4.97	22.62
Solomon Hill	2.57	24.92	2.15	19.62	4.72	22.19
Garrett Sim	3.19	30.56	0.86	10.95	4.05	22.13
Terrence Ross	1.98	27.05	2.56	18.49	4.54	21.45
E.J. Singler	2.62	25.08	1.14	14.47	3.76	20.52
Devon Collier	2.55	22.61	1.61	17.64	4.16	20.39
Devoe Joseph	2.87	27.46	0.86	10.98	3.73	20.38
Jared Cunningham	2.77	24.56	1.36	14.95	4.13	20.27
Allen Crabbe	2.78	25.91	2.21	15.63	4.99	20.07
Kyle Fogg	2.61	25.34	1.51	13.83	4.13	19.42
Justin Cobbs	2.45	22.83	1.91	13.51	4.36	17.53
Travis Wear	1.91	20.52	1.79	14.76	3.70	17.26
Dilon Farr	0.75	17.87	-0.56	18.21	0.19	16.97
Lazeric Jones	1.96	21.09	1.66	13.68	3.62	16.90
Chasson Randle	2.16	27.80	1.51	10.61	3.67	16.69
David Kravish	1.46	13.58	2.68	18.93	4.13	16.63
Austin Dufault	1.78	19.74	1.44	13.88	3.22	16.60
C.J. Wilcox	2.03	27.69	1.48	10.68	3.51	16.57
Jesse Perry	1.73	16.78	1.77	16.21	3.50	16.49
Tony Wroten	0.96	13.07	2.47	17.86	3.43	16.20

Win Shares Offensive POY: Brock Motum

Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %
Brock Motum	4.04	39.99
Josh Owens	2.48	31.91
Garrett Sim	3.19	30.56
Cedric Martin	1.22	29.06
Chasson Randle	2.16	27.80
C.J. Wilcox	2.03	27.69
Devoe Joseph	2.87	27.46
Terrence Ross	1.98	27.05
Allen Crabbe	2.78	25.91
Kyle Fogg	2.61	25.34
E.J. Singler	2.62	25.08
Solomon Hill	2.57	24.92
Trent Lockett	2.23	24.57
Jared Cunningham	2.77	24.56
Justin Cobbs	2.45	22.83
Devon Collier	2.55	22.61
Aaron Bright	1.70	21.85
Lazeric Jones	1.96	21.09
Travis Wear	1.91	20.52
Austin Dufault	1.78	19.74
Spencer DinWiddie	1.78	19.72
Brendon Lavender	1.93	18.70
David Wear	1.69	18.22
Andre Roberson	1.62	17.96

Win Shares Defensive POY: Andre Roberson

Player	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %
Andre Roberson	2.97	28.70
Jason Washburn	-0.73	23.94
Eric Moreland	1.909129329	20.98585095
Solomon Hill	2.15	19.62
David Kravish	2.676478958	18.93293986
Marcus Capers	0.984086076	18.53799694
Terrence Ross	2.56	18.49
Dilon Farr	-0.555897979	18.21049472
Tony Wroten	2.469696425	17.8638696
Josh Huestis	2.525305849	17.77104933
Devon Collier	1.61	17.64
Josh Owens	2.49	17.53
Tony Woods	1.32051887	16.78885466
Brock Motum	0.87	16.35
Aziz NDiaye	2.24818077	16.26159706
Jesse Perry	1.77266804	16.21176444
Jorge Gutierrez	2.268922709	16.04995887
Carrick Felix	0.037397384	15.65541379
Allen Crabbe	2.21	15.63
Tyler Lamb	1.879562293	15.48999258
Trent Lockett	0.04	15.49
Jared Cunningham	1.36	14.95
Travis Wear	1.79	14.76
Jordan Bachynski	0.035092489	14.69053099

Here are the Win Shares for all P12 teams for the 2011/2012 season.

Arizona
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Kyle Fogg	2.61	25.34	1.51	13.83	4.13	19.42
Solomon Hill	2.57	24.92	2.15	19.62	4.72	22.19
Jesse Perry	1.73	16.78	1.77	16.21	3.50	16.49
Nick Johnson	0.12	1.14	1.36	12.43	1.48	6.95
Josiah Turner	0.42	4.12	1.26	11.55	1.69	7.94
Brendon Lavender	1.93	18.70	0.33	3.06	2.26	10.65
Jordin Mayes	0.29	2.79	0.63	5.72	0.91	4.30
Kevin Parrom	0.30	2.94	0.47	4.32	0.78	3.65
Angelo Chol	0.54	5.26	1.11	10.14	1.65	7.77
Kyryl Natyazhko	-0.14	-1.38	0.24	2.17	0.09	0.45
Max Wiepking	0.07	0.63	0.01	0.12	0.08	0.37
Totals	10.31	100.00	10.93	100.00	21.25	100.00
ASU
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Trent Lockett	2.23	24.57	0.04	15.49	2.27	24.34
Carrick Felix	1.38	15.19	0.04	15.66	1.42	15.20
Kyle Cain	0.37	4.13	0.03	10.71	0.40	4.30
Jonathan Gilling	1.19	13.15	0.01	6.22	1.21	12.97
Chris Colvin	0.16	1.79	0.02	9.79	0.19	1.99
Keala King	1.31	14.43	0.02	7.32	1.33	14.25
Jordan Bachynski	1.01	11.10	0.04	14.69	1.04	11.20
Ruslan Pateev	0.77	8.47	0.03	11.72	0.80	8.55
Chanse Creekmur	0.57	6.32	0.02	7.95	0.59	6.36
David Whitmore	0.04	0.45	0.00	0.34	0.04	0.45
Pierre Newton	0.04	0.41	0.00	0.12	0.04	0.40
Team Totals	9.08	100.00	0.24	100.00	9.31	100.00
CAL
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Allen Crabbe	2.78	25.91	2.21	15.63	4.99	20.07
Justin Cobbs	2.45	22.83	1.91	13.51	4.36	17.53
Jorge Gutierrez	1.38	12.84	2.27	16.05	3.65	14.67
Harper Kamp	1.29	12.01	1.87	13.23	3.16	12.70
David Kravish	1.46	13.58	2.68	18.93	4.13	16.63
Robert Thurman	0.82	7.69	0.41	2.87	1.23	4.95
Brandon Smith	-0.09	-0.85	0.85	5.98	0.75	3.03
Richard Solomon	0.21	1.94	1.27	8.97	1.48	5.94
Bak Bak	0.32	2.97	0.40	2.83	0.72	2.89
Emerson Murray	0.05	0.44	0.23	1.62	0.28	1.11
Jeff Powers	0.07	0.64	0.05	0.36	0.12	0.48
CU
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Carlon Brown	1.47	16.27	1.25	12.06	2.72	14.02
Andre Roberson	1.62	17.96	2.97	28.70	4.59	23.71
Austin Dufault	1.78	19.74	1.44	13.88	3.22	16.60
Spencer DinWiddie	1.78	19.72	1.14	11.00	2.92	15.05
Askia Booker	1.03	11.48	0.87	8.38	1.90	9.82
Nate Tomlinson	0.96	10.69	0.99	9.56	1.95	10.09
Shane Harris-Tunks	0.26	2.84	0.65	6.23	0.90	4.65
Sabatino Chen	0.31	3.50	0.45	4.32	0.76	3.94
Jeremy Adams	-0.16	-1.76	0.33	3.22	0.17	0.90
Shannon Sharpe	-0.12	-1.31	0.18	1.74	0.06	0.32
Damiene Cain	0.08	0.88	0.09	0.91	0.17	0.90
Team Totals	9.01	0.00	10.36	0.00	19.37	0
Oregon
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Devoe Joseph	2.87	27.46	0.86	10.98	3.73	20.38
E.J. Singler	2.62	25.08	1.14	14.47	3.76	20.52
Garrett Sim	3.19	30.56	0.86	10.95	4.05	22.13
Olu Ashalou	0.14	1.38	0.96	12.16	1.10	6.01
Carlos Emory	0.95	9.09	0.75	9.57	1.70	9.30
Tony Woods	0.54	5.21	1.32	16.79	1.86	10.19
Jeremy Jacob	-0.04	-0.35	0.46	5.80	0.42	2.29
Johnathan Loyd	0.12	1.13	0.62	7.90	0.74	4.04
Tyrone Nared	0.35	3.39	0.73	9.25	1.08	5.91
Brett Kingma	-0.21	-2.02	0.14	1.81	-0.07	-0.38
Jabari Brown	-0.10	-0.94	0.03	0.33	-0.07	-0.39
Team Totals	10.44	100.00	7.87	0.00	18.30	0.00
Oregon St.
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Jared Cunningham	2.77	24.56	1.36	14.95	4.13	20.27
Devon Collier	2.55	22.61	1.61	17.64	4.16	20.39
Ahmad Starks	1.11	9.79	0.82	9.03	1.93	9.45
Roberto Nelson	1.18	10.49	0.80	8.78	1.98	9.72
Angus Brandt	1.87	16.58	0.78	8.55	2.65	12.99
Joe Burton	1.28	11.33	1.28	14.07	2.56	12.55
Eric Moreland	0.32	2.85	1.91	20.99	2.23	10.94
Challe Barton	-0.13	-1.18	0.19	2.10	0.06	0.28
Kevin McShane	0.22	1.98	0.26	2.85	0.48	2.37
Rhys Murphy	0.10	0.91	0.08	0.83	0.18	0.87
C.J. Mitchell	0.01	0.10	0.02	0.21	0.03	0.15
Team Totals	11.29	0.00	9.10	0.00	20.39	0.00
Stanford
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Chasson Randle	2.16	27.80	1.51	10.61	3.67	16.69
Josh Owens	2.48	31.91	2.49	17.53	4.97	22.62
Aaron Bright	1.70	21.85	1.11	7.78	2.81	12.76
Anthony Brown	-0.34	-4.33	1.31	9.22	0.97	4.43
Josh Huestis	0.28	3.56	2.53	17.77	2.80	12.74
Dwight Powell	0.10	1.29	1.82	12.78	1.92	8.72
John Gage	0.78	10.02	0.64	4.49	1.42	6.44
Jarrett Mann	-0.16	-2.01	1.04	7.34	0.89	4.03
Andrew Zimmerman	0.29	3.71	0.84	5.93	1.13	5.14
Jack Trotter	0.35	4.48	0.53	3.76	0.88	4.01
Stefan Nastic	0.13	1.71	0.40	2.79	0.53	2.41
UCLA
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Lazeric Jones	1.96	21.09	1.66	13.68	3.62	16.90
Travis Wear	1.91	20.52	1.79	14.76	3.70	17.26
David Wear	1.69	18.22	1.36	11.24	3.06	14.27
Joshua Smith	1.65	17.76	1.47	12.09	3.12	14.55
Tyler Lamb	0.97	10.45	1.88	15.49	2.85	13.30
Jerime Andersen	1.07	11.47	1.61	13.27	2.68	12.49
Norman Powell	0.29	3.13	0.77	6.32	1.06	4.94
Reeves Nelson	-0.04	-0.44	0.28	2.32	0.24	1.12
Brendan Lane	0.07	0.77	0.19	1.58	0.26	1.23
Kenny Jones	-0.14	-1.51	0.09	0.73	-0.05	-0.24
Anthony Stover	-0.14	-1.46	1.03	8.52	0.90	4.19
Team Totals	9.30	0.00	12.13	0.00	21.44	0.00
UW
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Tony Wroten	0.96	13.07	2.47	17.86	3.43	16.20
Terrence Ross	1.98	27.05	2.56	18.49	4.54	21.45
C.J. Wilcox	2.03	27.69	1.48	10.68	3.51	16.57
Abdul Gaddy	0.86	11.68	1.33	9.62	2.19	10.34
Aziz NDiaye	0.48	6.54	2.25	16.26	2.73	12.89
Darnell Gant	0.80	10.90	1.24	8.94	2.03	9.62
Desmond Simmons	0.07	1.02	1.42	10.29	1.50	7.08
Shawn Kemp	0.22	2.95	0.53	3.82	0.74	3.52
Martin Breunig	0.16	2.24	0.28	2.00	0.44	2.08
Austin Seferian-Jenkins	-0.10	-1.39	0.21	1.49	0.10	0.49
Hikeem Stewart	-0.13	-1.75	0.08	0.54	-0.05	-0.25
Team Totals	7.32	100.00	13.83	100.00	21.15	100.00
WSU
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Brock Motum	4.04	39.99	0.87	16.35	4.91	31.85
Reggie Moore	0.37	3.70	0.76	14.36	1.14	7.37
DaVonte Lacy	1.23	12.14	0.52	9.75	1.74	11.32
Faisal Aden	0.44	4.31	0.39	7.28	0.82	5.33
Marcus Capers	1.23	12.14	0.98	18.54	2.21	14.34
D.J. Shelton	1.14	11.24	0.51	9.52	1.64	10.65
Abe Lodwick	0.64	6.33	0.32	6.10	0.96	6.25
Charlie Enquist	0.90	8.91	0.51	9.59	1.41	9.15
Mychal Ladd	-0.06	-0.64	0.23	4.31	0.16	1.06
Dexter Kernich-Drew	0.14	1.43	0.14	2.71	0.29	1.87
Patrick Simon	0.05	0.45	0.08	1.50	0.12	0.81
Team Totals	10.11	100.00	5.31	100.00	15.42	100.00
Utah
Player	Off Win Share	Off Win Share %	Def Win Share	Def Win Share %	Total Win Share	Total Win Share %
Jason Washburn	2.30	54.98	-0.73	23.94	1.57	138.30
Chris Hines	-0.03	-0.72	-0.20	6.58	-0.23	-20.30
Josh Watkins	0.18	4.27	-0.28	9.14	-0.10	-8.82
Cedric Martin	1.22	29.06	-0.39	12.64	0.83	73.13
Dilon Farr	0.75	17.87	-0.56	18.21	0.19	16.97
Kareem Storey	0.15	3.48	-0.31	10.03	-0.16	-14.11
Javon Dawson	0.36	8.62	-0.18	5.95	0.18	15.78
Anthony Odunsi	-0.06	-1.32	-0.14	4.54	-0.19	-17.04
Blake Wilkinson	-0.24	-5.64	-0.16	5.17	-0.39	-34.67
Kyle Perkins	0.09	2.08	-0.04	1.24	0.05	4.32
George Matthews	-0.53	-12.68	-0.08	2.56	-0.61	-53.58
Team Totals	4.19	100.00	-3.05	100.00	1.14	100.00

 

[HotRack]

My head just exploded.

 

[Darth Snow]

so,... you are saying that the DPOY award going to Jorge makes NO ****ING SENSE?

 

[jgisland]

so,... you are saying that the DPOY award going to Jorge makes NO ****ING SENSE?

I would say there were 17 people statistically more worthy.....

 

[HotRack]

so,... you are saying that the DPOY award going to Jorge makes NO ****ING SENSE?

ANYTHING going to Gutierrez makes no ****ing sense. He looked like ass everytime I saw him play, never understood why he was so "special" run of the mill PG IMO.

 

[Darth Snow]

ANYTHING going to Gutierrez makes no ****ing sense. He looked like ass everytime I saw him play, never understood why he was so "special" run of the mill PG IMO.

to be fair, I'm guessing the majority of the times you saw him play the buffs were ****ing him up. However, ya, WTF to the pac 12 on this DPOY selection. The glove doesn't fit.

 

[The Guest]

to be fair, I'm guessing the majority of the times you saw him play the buffs were ****ing him up. However, ya, WTF to the pac 12 on this DPOY selection. The glove doesn't fit.

Well, much like our friend, the Arizona sportswriter said, blocks, rebounds and steals (I added that one) don't really factor into the equation of a well-rounded defensive player. It's about the intangibles...footspeed and a firm handshake.

 

[The Guest]

My bubble-head just exploded.

FIFY.

And whatever. Submariners eat stats like that for a light afternoon snack.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Sounds to me that we have a West Coast uTerus effect.

 

[absinthe]

Wazzu was so bad can we really go with Motum for POY?

 

[jgisland]

Wazzu was so bad can we really go with Motum for POY?

Wazzu wasn't Utah or USC bad. They finished 15-15 and 7-11 in the conf. They finished 124th in KenPom's rankings (CU finished 96th). If you look at Motum's KenPom adv stats profile, pretty impressive.

		Ht	Wt	Yr	G	%Min	ORtg	%Poss	%Shots	eFG%	TS%	OR%	DR%	ARate	TORate	Blk%	Stl%	FC/40	FD/40	FTRate	FTM-FTA	Pct	2PM-2PA	Pct	3PM-3PA	Pct
2012	Washington St.	6 10	230	Jr	30	80.6	108.2	28.8	29	58.6	61.8	8	16.8	14	20.5	1.4	1	2.8	5.8	49.6	126-176	0.716	169-287	0.589	26-68	0.382
	National Rank					241		64	122	100	99		464						99	244

Having an offensive rating of 108.2 while using 28.8% of possessions and having a 58.6 eFG% is pretty good. Basically he had the ball a lot, was super efficient and didn't miss much. All the while contributing to 31.85% of his teams Win Shares.

 

[tante]

you can kinda argue Terrence Ross for POY in the PAC, he is the highest rated on both lists and the best player on the best team. Roberson got robbed for DPOY.

 

[jgisland]

you can kinda argue Terrence Ross for POY in the PAC, he is the highest rated on both lists and the best player on the best team. Roberson got robbed for DPOY.

There are a handful of guys you could make a "statistical" case for (Motum, Joseph, Fogg, Hill, Lockett, Cunningham). But Ross would be my POY as well for exactly the reason you stated, most productive player (off and def) on the team that won the conf.

 

[jcatcher]

Well, much like our friend, the Arizona sportswriter said, blocks, rebounds and steals (I added that one) don't really factor into the equation of a well-rounded defensive player. It's about the intangibles...footspeed and a firm handshake.

His girlfriend is ugly, too.