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Playoff idea

Unleash Hell

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Why not take a similar approach to basketball.

8 team tourney, confrence champions from all 6 BCS conferences get automatics, and then 2 at large bids.

Top 4 host in the first round, then the semifinals and championship game alternate between New Orleans, Miami, Glendale and Pasadena.

Semifinal losers go home, winners stay for another week and play championship the next week. 3 week tourney
 
Makes too much sense. Let's keep the current system where we don't let the games decide a champ
 
For it to be meaningful, any football playoff must include 16 teams. The #9 team in the country could make a pretty convincing case for itself as being able to beat any of the teams from 1-8. The #17 team in the country could not make that argument.

And forget conference tie-ins. Just do it based on BCS ranking 1-16.
 
Unleash Hell said:
Why not take a similar approach to basketball.

8 team tourney, confrence champions from all 6 BCS conferences get automatics, and then 2 at large bids.

Top 4 host in the first round, then the semifinals and championship game alternate between New Orleans, Miami, Glendale and Pasadena.

Semifinal losers go home, winners stay for another week and play championship the next week. 3 week tourney
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They could play the tournament during Winter break.... no class time would be missed:thumbsup:
 
sackman said:
For it to be meaningful, any football playoff must include 16 teams. The #9 team in the country could make a pretty convincing case for itself as being able to beat any of the teams from 1-8. The #17 team in the country could not make that argument.

And forget conference tie-ins. Just do it based on BCS ranking 1-16.
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My only argument about the conference champions, is it really pisses me off badly when a team that didn't win their own conference is in the national championship game (01 Nebraska and 03 Oklahoma).

The at large bids would likely be our most recent MWC or WAC teams that go undefeated and are conference champs themselves.

I do see your point about a 9 being pissed, but I think 16 is too many to be playing for a college football national title. I don't know, just a thought.
 
Unleash Hell said:
My only argument about the conference champions, is it really pisses me off badly when a team that didn't win their own conference is in the national championship game (01 Nebraska and 03 Oklahoma).

The at large bids would likely be our most recent MWC or WAC teams that go undefeated and are conference champs themselves.

I do see your point about a 9 being pissed, but I think 16 is too many to be playing for a college football national title. I don't know, just a thought.
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Well the thing is that in a 16-team tournament, the winners of the major conferences will all probably be in anyways. But, on the off chance that some dorky team like UConn wins it's conference, they shouldn't be in a tournament where a solid team that's ranked #10 (as an example) but didn't win it's conference is on the outside looking in.
 
here we go again. BCS conf champs all in, then BCS ranking from there. Seeding goes by BCS ranking.
 
Yep basketball concept works great.:rolling_eyes: It is about politics and will always be about politics as we foun out yesterday.
 
Thats why you leave as little up to chance as possible. 37 teams chosen by chance is ridiculous. I agree with the 8 team idea. 6 conference champions and 2 at large based on BCS rankings. Have them seeded by their BCS ranking. Seems to me the most fair and leave the least up to some random committee
 
8-team playoff in football will cause more controversy than it will solve. Especially if there's only room for two at-large teams. It has to be 16 teams.
 
Not enough $$$ to be made in this scenario and why the NCAA would have none of it and rather keep their 38 (or however many games there are), which each have their own corporate sponsor and television money
 
Rraalph 3000 said:
Not enough $$$ to be made in this scenario and why the NCAA would have none of it and rather keep their 38 (or however many games there are), which each have their own corporate sponsor and television money
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it is ridiculous to me there there are 120 eligible teams fighting for 70 spots. That doesnt make anyone feel better about going to any bowls... it is so watered down anymore.
 
I like the 16 teams because it hurts larger conferences. What is the point of being in a huge conference and playing the best, when you can be in the Tex 10 and win by playing lesser competition. If you go to 16 teams, you have a good chance of two conference qualifiers.
 
I like the bowls, but I like them even better when there are fewer available slots so that getting an invite means something. Screw the playoffs; that's what the regular season is.
 
96 Buff said:
I like the bowls, but I like them even better when there are fewer available slots so that getting an invite means something. Screw the playoffs; that's what the regular season is.
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this. but i think common ground can be found. no matter what, the regular season has to matter. that is what is great about college football. right now, it is basically a 12 week playoff. granted, there are tons of problems with how it is done now. no argument there. i just want the regular season to matter.
 
best plan i've seen is up at Dr. Saturday now.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...official-Dr-Saturday-Playoff-P?urn=ncaaf-wp58

Basic Structure
• Ten teams, selected according to final conference and BCS standings. Yes, we're keeping the BCS — essentially, with the rare exception, the 10 teams in this system will be the same 10 teams selected for BCS bowls under the current structure.
• Four rounds consisting of nine total games, staged from the second or third weekend in December through the second weekend in January. Ideally, I'd allow for a "Christmas break," a bye week between the second round games and the semifinals, and stage the semifinals on New Year's Day.
• The first round consists of four teams playing two games. The other six teams receive automatic byes to the second round.
• Rounds one and two are played at the home site of the higher-seeded team. The semifinals and championship games are played at current BCS bowl sites. (The championship game rotates among the sites each season, as it does now. That leaves one site out every year — three games for four sites — but the bowl that doesn't get a playoff game can still select two of the eliminated teams for a sort of consolation game. Which, let's face it, is basically what the non-championship games are now.)
• The winners of the two first-round games advance into the second round; the eight remaining teams are then matched so that the lowest-ranked team visits the highest-ranked team, etc. Second-round winners advance to the semifinals.
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I think every conference championship should get a bid in the playoffs along with five at large teams which would mean a 16 team playoff. The BCS would determine the seeding and who the five at large teams would be.
 
buffedup said:
Yep basketball concept works great.:rolling_eyes: It is about politics and will always be about politics as we foun out yesterday.
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Basketball works fine if you are trying to determine a national champion. There is no way CU wins the ****ing tourney if they are admitted.
 
How about everyone starts off in the playoffs but once you lose your outside of the championship game until every team loses. Then since there aren't enough games for full league playoff the top two teams based on schedule difficulty, human perception and mathematical algorithm play each other in the championship. The bowl system can for the most part can stay intact and the championship can rotate around the four major bowls.
 
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