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QB Thoughts

darth-horax

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I don't know if it's Chev or what....but when we had Montez, he was an animal. He ran, he threw, he made things happen.
Then CU tried to turn him into a pocket passer. I don't know if it was to make him more attracttive at the pro level, but he ended up NOT being
as good as he could have been IMO. HIs legs forced hte defense to be honest and it opened up a lot of passing lanes, too.

I'm seeing the same thing with Lewis. His best asset is his playmaking ability and his legs. Remidns me a bit of Kordell Stewart.
BUT in the second half Chev took his legs away and tried to get him to stay in the pocket. WHY?

WHY do we try to make our QB's something they are not? I know that aTm made adjustments, but hwy not use Lewis legs when they're an honest weapon?

Am I the only one who thinks this way?
 
Truly want BLewis to succeed but am starting to get concerned. I know the aggie has a solid D, but he has to find the open receiver.
Noticed lots of plays where there was ball fakes yet the RB or Lewis went the wrong direction. Thats not going to confuse the D.
Throwing to Wr or Rbs that are about to get hit? Did that a couple times yesterday and is going to get someone hurt. No deep balls? Have to throw some deep ones just to keep the D honest...
 
Has anyone here considered the fact that BLew got seriously banged up on two successive plays in the third quarter? That may be the reason the coaches "took his legs away" ... unless of course it was his decision not to run or rollout himself.
 
bigbang2 said:
Noyer was losing the game against Texas. No Noyer doesn't win this game.
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Seems like a horrible take. The Noyer in the Alamo Bowl was the same Noyer that had to have surgery on his throwing shoulder. The same Noyer that was playing behind a O-line working in their third string. And the same Noyer that had no support on the Defensive side of the ball. If the game plays out the same way as it did yesterday, I think Noyer puts a little more rah rah in the guys late in the game makes a few plays with his legs instead of throwing into A&M defenders in a collapsing pocket. At least to get to field goal range
 
BuffUp said:
Truly want BLewis to succeed but am starting to get concerned. I know the aggie has a solid D, but he has to find the open receiver.
Noticed lots of plays where there was ball fakes yet the RB or Lewis went the wrong direction. Thats not going to confuse the D.
Throwing to Wr or Rbs that are about to get hit? Did that a couple times yesterday and is going to get someone hurt. No deep balls? Have to throw some deep ones just to keep the D honest...
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His deep ball hit Arias right in the hands.
 
Chev has a big role in it, more than most realize. When did lewis take his biggest hits? It wasn't the zone reads. The interception early was his own fault for not seeing it, but the majority of big hits occurred in the second half. I can't bear to watch a replay but I'd bet most of those happened on the chev special...third and long. When your play calling is so predicable, run on 1st quick slant on 2nd again!!!, good teams will anticipate the play call and blow it up. When you add vanilla schemes on top of predicability,1 maybe 2 pass attempt thrown further than 25+ yards downfield all game, you'll never beat a team more talented than you... unless that talent is expertise in ****ing up games. Predictability and vanilla is chevs specialty, it's a recipe for 3rd and long. Gee I wonder what this play will be, either screen or drop back pass but they haven't ran routes past the sticks on 3rd the whole game so... blitz everyone aggies? Sounds great.

Chev called one wheel route and it went for good yardage only to be called back on a bull**** PI on Mr Lemonious. AM beat us solely on the rb wheel. Chev called it once and it worked, never again. Almost comical. When was the last time chev called a texas route scheme or play action on 3rd and short? We have a fr qb who is not quite up to big boy cfb game speed, did we run one pivot route that game? Christ jimbobob called a ****ing squirrel route and it screwed our db into the dirt, would've been a td had the qb not given up on the play. I haven't seen a squirrel route since peyton threw a td to every colt player, minus the kicker, in the 2003 wild card. Try that chev? Nah, slants bro.

Getting back on track...full sefo 2016 is one thing, every other play against utah was an inside the tackles read or qb keep. No one is arguing for lewis running inside the tackles 15 times a game. We have two scholarship qb's, that would be retarded. But I would take a 25% increase in off tackle zone read calls over predictable crap, that gets us into 3rd and long every series, all day. At least lewis isn't defenseless when he tucks it and can slide.
 
ShnaultzSaltNMaltAssault said:
Chev has a big role in it, more than most realize. When did lewis take his biggest hits? It wasn't the zone reads. The interception early was his own fault for not seeing it, but the majority of big hits occurred in the second half. I can't bear to watch a replay but I'd bet most of those happened on the chev special...third and long. When your play calling is so predicable, run on 1st quick slant on 2nd again!!!, good teams will anticipate the play call and blow it up. When you add vanilla schemes on top of predicability,1 maybe 2 pass attempt thrown further than 25+ yards downfield all game, you'll never beat a team more talented than you... unless that talent is expertise in ****ing up games. Predictability and vanilla is chevs specialty, it's a recipe for 3rd and long. Gee I wonder what this play will be, either screen or drop back pass but they haven't ran routes past the sticks on 3rd the whole game so... blitz everyone aggies? Sounds great.

Chev called one wheel route and it went for good yardage only to be called back on a bull**** PI on Mr Lemonious. AM beat us solely on the rb wheel. Chev called it once and it worked, never again. Almost comical. When was the last time chev called a texas route scheme or play action on 3rd and short? We have a fr qb who is not quite up to big boy cfb game speed, did we run one pivot route that game? Christ jimbobob called a ****ing squirrel route and it screwed our db into the dirt, would've been a td had the qb not given up on the play. I haven't seen a squirrel route since peyton threw a td to every colt player, minus the kicker, in the 2003 wild card. Try that chev? Nah, slants bro.

Getting back on track...full sefo 2016 is one thing, every other play against utah was an inside the tackles read or qb keep. No one is arguing for lewis running inside the tackles 15 times a game. We have two scholarship qb's, that would be retarded. But I would take a 25% increase in off tackle zone read calls over predictable crap, that gets us into 3rd and long every series, all day. At least lewis isn't defenseless when he tucks it and can slide.
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Lewis’ runs are usually (very) productive. Soooo…thanks Chiv.
 
Most collegiate QBs have huge limitations. The great separator is having an OC that can mitigate this and put their QB in positions to be successful.

If Lewis at this point in his career needs a simplified gameplan, then Chev needs to accommodate that. More designed rollouts where he only needs to survey half the field. More single-read type plays where he’s instructed to take off and run immediately if it’s not there. More easy slants and drag routes over the middle of the field. This is the type of stuff ASU did with Daniels early on in his career. I saw some of it in the first half, but not enough down the stretch
 
CUAviator said:
Posted in different thread, but Noyer wins this game.
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Sam Noyer lost the starting job in Corvalis after 3 quarters into game 1....

I am questioning if Lewis can see the receivers from the pocket. The protection has been garbage though.
 
buffaholic said:
Sam Noyer lost the starting job in Corvalis after 3 quarters into game 1....

I am questioning if Lewis can see the receivers from the pocket. The protection has been garbage though.
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The game hasn’t slowed down yet for BL. You add pressure on almost every play and he is coming out of the huddle knowing where he’s going with the ball regardless of coverage in nearly all cases.
 
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