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Rivals story on WSU

NashBuff

CSU Knob-Slobberer
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1331640

The transformation of pre-Leach Texas Tech to what it would become by 2008 didn't occur overnight. Texas Tech went 14-11 overall and 7-9 in the Big 12 in Leach's first two seasons in Lubbock. Not until his third year did the Red Raiders win nine total games, win a bowl game and finish with a winning record in conference play.

In some ways, however, Washington State may be more equipped to handle the transition to Leach than Texas Tech.

Before Leach took over in Lubbock, Texas Tech had only three 2,000-yard quarterbacks in its history, never mind a 3,000-yard passer. Under his predecessor, Spike Dykes, Texas Tech was like many Big 12 teams at the time, utilizing a run-oriented offense.
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We better work on that pass D...the Cougs will be on the CU schedule in '13, '14, and '15 before taking a two year break.

WSU with Leach is a lock to go bowling this upcoming season.
 
I don't think WSU has enough talent this year to go bowling. Wulff's recruiting classes were horrid.
 
Creatini said:
I don't think WSU has enough talent this year to go bowling. Wulff's recruiting classes were horrid.
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Leach's early TT classes weren't all that hot either. WSU has two QBs who can play and I'm sure they got some WRs as well. As bad as the CU pass D was in the Pac-12 this recent season, the Buffs were #8 in that category in the conference.
 
NashBuff said:
Leach's early TT classes weren't all that hot either. WSU has two QBs who can play and I'm sure they got some WRs as well. As bad as the CU pass D was in the Pac-12 this recent season, the Buffs were #8 in that category in the conference.
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Marquess Wilson (last seen by Buffs fans scoring the winning TD in Boulder) does not get the hype of Woods, Lee, or Allen, but he is very good. It will be a tough matchup for us.

Not sure you can Wazzu is a lock to go bowling though.
 
Success at one school does not necessarily equal success at another. I am always leery or "system" guys. I believe it will be harder for him to recruit at WSU than it was at TT...lot more talent in Texas even if you are taking the players that UT and OU did not accept. Both Graham Harrell and Taylor Potts were 4 star QBs coming out of HS in Texas.

I think the Leach will do okay but not have the same success he had at Texas Tech.
 
BlackNGold said:
Success at one school does not necessarily equal success at another. I am always leery or "system" guys. I believe it will be harder for him to recruit at WSU than it was at TT...lot more talent in Texas even if you are taking the players that UT and OU did not accept. Both Graham Harrell and Taylor Potts were 4 star QBs coming out of HS in Texas.

I think the Leach will do okay but not have the same success he had at Texas Tech.
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Leach doesn't have to face Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M every year while in the Pac-12. You might want to chew on that a bit. He will face USC two times every four years and just has to face Oregon & Washington every year. An easier road in the Pac-12 North than the Big 12 South.

And if you actually read the article, Leach brought in more SoCal talent to Pullman in one class than the last two classes.
 
Boulder Buff said:
Marquess Wilson (last seen by Buffs fans scoring the winning TD in Boulder) does not get the hype of Woods, Lee, or Allen, but he is very good. It will be a tough matchup for us.

Not sure you can Wazzu is a lock to go bowling though.
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The Pac-12's pass D stats are even worse than the Big 12 pass D stats when Leach was there. His QBs can put up stellar numbers and he won't have problems getting good QBs to come to Pullman...Ryan Leaf and Drew Bledsoe are just two of good QBs that passed through Pullman.
 
NashBuff said:
Laugh all you want but Hawkins has one win against Bob Stoops. Leach on the other hand had three against Bob Stoops and two against Mack Brown.
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Leach also barely makes a bowl every year without a schedule that would make Bill Snyder proud. He had good offenses at Tech, but Hawk owned him. Leach is a mediocre coach at best.
 
NashBuff said:
Leach doesn't have to face Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M every year while in the Pac-12. You might want to chew on that a bit. He will face USC two times every four years and just has to face Oregon & Washington every year. An easier road in the Pac-12 North than the Big 12 South.

And if you actually read the article, Leach brought in more SoCal talent to Pullman in one class than the last two classes.
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Washington=A&M
Stanford>Oklahoma state most of the years Leach faced them
Oregon>than both OU and UT
SC> Any team in the former Big 12 north
 
NashBuff said:
Leach doesn't have to face Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M every year while in the Pac-12. You might want to chew on that a bit. He will face USC two times every four years and just has to face Oregon & Washington every year. An easier road in the Pac-12 North than the Big 12 South.

And if you actually read the article, Leach brought in more SoCal talent to Pullman in one class than the last two classes.
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I actually did read the article and I was unimpressed....Washington State ranked at the bottom of the Big 12 in recruiting even with Leach...Improving from atrocious to horrible is not all that impressive. If you would actually look at his record it would not have you so excited - during his tenure at TT - A&M was hardly a ranked team and OSU was only good late in his tenure so he did not face a bunch of tough teams in his division every year. Leach was a 8 win a year guy with an OOC schedule that had no BCS teams on it and usually included a couple of none Div 1 teams. You may be in love with the guy and that is your prerogative but I remain unimpressed and doubt that he is going to set the world on fire in Pullman.
 
Unleash Hell said:
And Texas still almost lost to little squirt Cody. And Oregon today still better than that Texas team
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If by "almost lost," you are meaning to say "they pulled away from the Buffs after Cody **** the bed," then I agree.

I think what Darth and I are trying to say is the differences between the current Oregon team and the OU/Texas teams when Leach coached at TT are negligible.
 
Boulder Buff said:
If by "almost lost," you are meaning to say "they pulled away from the Buffs after Cody **** the bed," then I agree.

I think what Darth and I are trying to say is the differences between the current Oregon team and the OU/Texas teams when Leach coached at TT are negligible.
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I really don't think so, but to each their own. I think Oregon today would dominate the Big 12 of the past 5-6 years.
 
We almost beat UT? I mean, we were up at half and had a blocked fg and even started off really strong in the 2nd half before Cody's 100 yard pick 6.

I like how revisionist we are around here. No way we win that game even if we score that TD. This was a Hawk team on the road guys.
 
Two of my favorite myths have resurfaced in this thread:

1) The myth of Mike Leach being a coach who won 10 games every year at TT.
----False. In 10 seasons, he reached double digits in the win column exactly once (11 wins in '08).

2) The myth of CU "almost" winning at UT in '09.
----False. UT blew our doors off and beat us by 24. It's cute that we hung around for a half, but everyone knew what was coming when Cody threw the INT.
 
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