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Safeties

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Biggest problem area for the year. Here's how I see it. We're deep at CB. Crawley, Henderson, Wright and Walker played well. Believe the deep stuff was mostly due to Briscoe and Hunter. At safety, Mosley stood out with the INT, but no one else. Do we put our best cover guys out there at S if none of the designated safeties are getting the job done? Do we start 3 CBs, 1 S? We cannot go into a season with what I saw yesterday. Everything was wide open over the middle. Getting Tedric Thompson in fall will help, but can't rely on a true FR. The staff is trying a lot of different people back there and none of it seemed to work. I'm inclined to play the best secondary talent regardless of position because they have the best ball instincts. The alternative is getting torched on a weekly basis. Not a good situation. Needs a solution.
 
Have to take what we saw from the secondary with a grain of salt. The coaches have been experimenting back there all spring. Once guys settle into a spot, I think we will see some better safety play. I hope that going up against P-Rich everyday in practice will help them figure out some things and they will have a better opportunity to be successful in Pac-12 play.
 
I agree with concern about the safeties, but I don't think the cb's are far behind. May be scheme/coaching and not talent, but there were people open deep all day vs all db's. even crawley and hendo were beat but got away with it because of drops or overthrows.

That being said, of the first 4 cbs, I'm not sure any of them can be made into safeties. Yuri avoids contact, and the other three don't shy away, but they are more edge tacklers not face up, middle of the field, every play contact guys.
 
Just hope we can get some quality play from Orms and a true freshman.
 
buffedup said:
And it so obviously helped us last year.
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Hard for safeties to cover the entire field. When your CB's cant restrict the edges, there is too much field to cover. I am not saying Polk is an all american, or even all Pac-12 candidate, but his leadership and athleticism would be huge back there with the secondary gaining so much experience last year.
 
Thompson and Lindsey will most likely get early playing time at safety. Moseley is the only guy that stood out in the spring game. Wouldn't mind moving Yuri Wright to safety.
 
jahbrahakala said:
Olugbode:)
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Believe MM said he's looking at Olugbode at LB first, but size wise he looks like a safety.

The three biggest areas of need are tackling, instincts and speed. Size isn't as important in the P12. Right now, we have safeties that aren't even in the camera angle as a guy goes 50 yards unimpeded into the end zone.

Good thing there's 140 days till the opener. Baer will need every one of those days to figure this out because based on the number of big plays the defense gave up yesterday, teams will be chomping at the bit to throw deep on us over the middle and I'm not sure we can stop them with the current players/strategies.
 
Whats up with Mosley? Saw him at 3rd on the "pencil" chart. You think this is a motivational ploy, or a more serious issue? We can't have his athleticism on the bench.
 
ElCunado said:
Whats up with Mosley? Saw him at 3rd on the "pencil" chart. You think this is a motivational ploy, or a more serious issue? We can't have his athleticism on the bench.
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His athleticism is nice, but he didn't seem to understand the position at all last season. No instincts.
 
Duff Man said:
His athleticism is nice, but he didn't seem to understand the position at all last season. No instincts.
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In and Out were playing in the yard. Out came in and his mother told him to find In because it was lunch time. A few minutes later Out came in with In. The mother asked how Out found In so quickly. Out responded, instincts.
 
I think the OP is giving way too much to the CBs. Crawley got away with a hold on JT as he slipped by and we were going man on the outside, on Prich, Jeff Hall, etc and they were being abused.

There were definitely some blown assignments, etc. I guess Moten is no longer at safety, working at nickel and CB.

LB and CB are the concerns, and of course I remain concerned at QB until I see a live game.
 
Duff Man said:
His athleticism is nice, but he didn't seem to understand the position at all last season. No instincts.
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Fair assessment. He looks the part, but I haven't seen the instincts show up on game day.

I thought we looked decent from 15 yards and under to the line of scrimmage. Everything past 15 yards was wide open. I didn't see safeties manning centerfield at all on some plays.

Don't be surprised if CSU opens the game with deep passes over the middle. Didn't see any reason to believe we can stop that play. After watching yesterday they'd be foolish not to.
 
buffaholic said:
I think the OP is giving way too much to the CBs. Crawley got away with a hold on JT as he slipped by and we were going man on the outside, on Prich, Jeff Hall, etc and they were being abused.

There were definitely some blown assignments, etc. I guess Moten is no longer at safety, working at nickel and CB.

LB and CB are the concerns, and of course I remain concerned at QB until I see a live game.
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Crawley and Hendo are your concerns but not the safety position?
 
Another thing I noticed, our secondary (for both safeties and corners) gets blocked off badly by WRs down field. They're so thin they can't break through a block. Spruce especially threw some good blocks down field. There's going to be some swing passes and shorter throws against us that go for big yardage if that group can't get stronger.
 
4DemBuffs said:
In and Out were playing in the yard. Out came in and his mother told him to find In because it was lunch time. A few minutes later Out came in with In. The mother asked how Out found In so quickly. Out responded, instincts.
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In before this turns into a thread about the ins and out of burgers at In-N-Out and 5 Guys.
 
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