ArizonaBuff
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Does Coach MacIntyre understand the importance of special teams? And if so, why can't he get it fixed once and for all?
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Special Teams
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before I answer this question, I will need you to provide Sacky an IPA and me a sammich
You have an aversion to sammiches?
no - I like sammiches. just not alcohol. so sacky gets my beer and I get my sammich
UBL?
I wonder if it really did drive it home. I'm sure MM is devoting lots of time to STs this week, but will it stick. Call me skeptical.
can we just put some of our 1s out there on ST? we need to sell-out for this win
I am not sure this is a good thing or a bad thing, but although Mac does not take blame publicly, he takes ownership on his mistakes between closed doors. I think he thinks that he may have cost us the game with certain things with the special teams, and he's an emotional dude. Let's just say he was very emotional at halftime and after the game. He knows his mistakes, but what worries me is that these mistakes have not been fixed.
Putting our No. 1s out there wouldn't have made the punter get the kick off faster on the block, scoop and score. Dude took 3 or 4 little steps. That's on him, imo.
Well, as most people around here know, I'm a big believer in special teams for lots of reasons I won't get in to here.
With that in mind, MM had a task ahead of him when he came here that involved making dramatic improvements to all three phases. As Mac1 used to say, you achieve what you emphasize. They haven't had the luxury of emphasizing special teams because their offense and defense were such dumpster fires. It didn't matter what our special teams were like when we were getting beat by 40 points. Now, they play a much bigger role.
MM has shown he can get an offense turned around. He's shown he can get a defense turned around (obviously give Leavitt, Chev and yes, Lindgren credit where it's due).
Special teams cost us a game against a very good, possibly great, team on the road. While that sucks, it is progress. Let's see what they do to turn this around. In not going to crucify the guy for one bad game given the circumstances. I do expect to see improvement. I don't want to lose another game to special teams ineptitude.
With that in mind, MM had a task ahead of him when he came here that involved making dramatic improvements to all three phases. As Mac1 used to say, you achieve what you emphasize. They haven't had the luxury of emphasizing special teams because their offense and defense were such dumpster fires. It didn't matter what our special teams were like when we were getting beat by 40 points. Now, they play a much bigger role.
MM has shown he can get an offense turned around. He's shown he can get a defense turned around (obviously give Leavitt, Chev and yes, Lindgren credit where it's due).
Special teams cost us a game against a very good, possibly great, team on the road. While that sucks, it is progress. Let's see what they do to turn this around. In not going to crucify the guy for one bad game given the circumstances. I do expect to see improvement. I don't want to lose another game to special teams ineptitude.
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
You think our special teams are bad?
All I know is that it needs to get fixed.
Here's my plan:
1. Clean it up as well as possible for this season.
2. Make a bowl.
3. Staff change for 2017: replace Bernardi with a TE Coach who is also known as an ace recruiter. (Someone like Ole Miss's Maurice Harris.) Give that high level assistant the ST Coordinator responsibility to run that aspect of things.
Here's my plan:
1. Clean it up as well as possible for this season.
2. Make a bowl.
3. Staff change for 2017: replace Bernardi with a TE Coach who is also known as an ace recruiter. (Someone like Ole Miss's Maurice Harris.) Give that high level assistant the ST Coordinator responsibility to run that aspect of things.
Sykobuff
Well-Known Member
Good points, is it coincidence that our TE's aren't involved much in the offense? Just a waste of a coaching position and a better recruiter.
Definitely an F for the day.
But on a positive note, how smooth and natural did Julmisse look on kick returns! He took one out he shouldn't have but nearly made something of it and was so close to taking one back to the house. As we've established, Harbaugh's special teams are full of playmakers and talent and are well coached. Pretty good sign that Julmisse is the natural football player we keep hearing about. Thinking he will become one of those "we better not kick it to him," guys.
But on a positive note, how smooth and natural did Julmisse look on kick returns! He took one out he shouldn't have but nearly made something of it and was so close to taking one back to the house. As we've established, Harbaugh's special teams are full of playmakers and talent and are well coached. Pretty good sign that Julmisse is the natural football player we keep hearing about. Thinking he will become one of those "we better not kick it to him," guys.
I think Julmisse is going to be a special player. Think he really competes for a CB job next year and will probably be our full time kick returner at some point this season.
Funny how those players with tons of other offers tend to be pretty good.
5 on 3 is not going to end well. They were fast too
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And Kinney was slow - he's got the ball in his hands in the picture, and the blockers are still 10 yards away. He should have either almost gotten it off, or just barely gotten it off - instead it wasn't even close.
Yeah, it seemed slow to me. I don't know if our guys released too soon as well to get up field. But the M surge was fast. You can see why they've had a few blocks this year. I don't get why we don't just put all our guys on the line and slow them down. Seems pretty tough for the three in the back.
It's really 4 on 3 right? Number 9 was chipped by Chido and stopped his rush as shown. Another reason to hate this punt formation is how do you even fake a punt here? Outside guys are far away for a punter to make a pass and they are always covered. Three guys inside are going to have to be there to block for the punter so they can't go out for a screen/pass. The only way to fake it is a run and that will rarely work with the rush the formation allows.
Anybody ever notice how no NFL teams use that spread punt formation. They all are tight in with two split wide and the upbacks on the the corners of the line. Why don't we just go back to that?
Yeah someone will probably say there is more athleticism in pro football so the formation works better but if you are that scared of a player in college football, just kick the ball out of bounds, this isn't a new concept.
I saw when they showed the camera angle from the end zone and asked why in the hell they weren't calling a time out...the spread punt formation has to be the stupidest idea anyone has had for a while.
But he has great hair....
Keep in mind that the NFL has the top 1% of all talent from college even with their scrubs.