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Sports is turning into something that I don't like

Buffnik

Buffnik

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If you listen to pro athletes, they're in the "entertainment" business.

They're right and it's being covered that way.

Which athlete is dating which celebrity?

What event was Johnny Football seen at in the offseason?

Who is sleeping around?

Fashion, fashion, fashion. What did so-and-so wear to the presser? Check out these new uniform looks with the runway show that does with them?

I hate this ****.
 
Buffnik said:
If you listen to pro athletes, they're in the "entertainment" business.

They're right and it's being covered that way.

Which athlete is dating which celebrity?

What event was Johnny Football seen at in the offseason?

Who is sleeping around?

Fashion, fashion, fashion. What did so-and-so wear to the presser? Check out these new uniform looks with the runway show that does with them?

I hate this ****.
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what makes sports of today any different than the Roman Coliseum of 2000 years ago? The nature of man has not changed.
 
Agreed, it's like some sports are becoming too mainstream, especially the NFL. The overkill of media coverage these days certainly isn't helping because everyone's looking for something different to cover or talk about.
 
That's why the uniform threads on allbuffs irritates me. I'm sick and tired of being marketed. Don't buy in to that bull****.

Semper Gumby
 
Buffnik said:
If you listen to pro athletes, they're in the "entertainment" business.

They're right and it's being covered that way.

Which athlete is dating which celebrity?

What event was Johnny Football seen at in the offseason?

Who is sleeping around?

Fashion, fashion, fashion. What did so-and-so wear to the presser? Check out these new uniform looks with the runway show that does with them?

I hate this ****.
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So what's your plan to fix it?
 
And it's trickling down to colleges and even to high school sports. Sucks donkey dicks. Not to mention the widening gap between the "haves" and "have nots" in the college ranks.

Oh, and **** ESPN.
 
Buffnik said:
If you listen to pro athletes, they're in the "entertainment" business.

They're right and it's being covered that way.

Which athlete is dating which celebrity?

What event was Johnny Football seen at in the offseason?

Who is sleeping around?

Fashion, fashion, fashion. What did so-and-so wear to the presser? Check out these new uniform looks with the runway show that does with them?

I hate this ****.
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Time to start following rugby.
 
I follow the Nuggets a little but otherwise I gave up on pro sports years ago for this very reason. Problem is it is creeping in to college at a sickening rate.
 
Buffnik said:
If you listen to pro athletes, they're in the "entertainment" business.

They're right and it's being covered that way.

Which athlete is dating which celebrity?

What event was Johnny Football seen at in the offseason?

Who is sleeping around?

Fashion, fashion, fashion. What did so-and-so wear to the presser? Check out these new uniform looks with the runway show that does with them?

I hate this ****.
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The businessman who doesn't like the business.
 
DBT said:
And it's trickling down to colleges and even to high school sports. Sucks donkey dicks. Not to mention the widening gap between the "haves" and "have nots" in the college ranks.

Oh, and **** ESPN.
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You do realize that CU was the first school to pay 1MM a year to a coach, right? The Dal Ward was incredible in its day. We may not be in the arms race anymore, but we sure helped kick it off.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
The businessman who doesn't like the business.
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Sports is my break from it. I like the competition and the chess match of sports. What D-Wade wore to the press conference or whether Tiger is having extra-marital affairs isn't relevant to me. And I'm not sure that's necessarily part of it being a business.
 
Players have become the brand now. The teams are secondary, for the most part. There are a lot of people that care about individual players than teams. I know people that follow various players in the NBA and if they switch teams they have a new team to follow. Fantasy football has helped contribute to this. People always followed players, but how many 49er fans become Chiefs fans when Montana was forced out?
 
J.R. Ewing said:
Time to start following rugby.
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In the countries where rugby is big the coverage is the same or worse.


I have been moving away from pro sports gradually for years because of this exact thing. Maybe the answer is to start following levels of sport that don't get enough attention to devolve into the trivial coverage and don't generate enough money to justify the sacrifices for marketing purposes.

You will never get it completely pure, I want to puke when I see the stuff the Valor does to win at a HS level but at least you have a chance to enjoy some purity of sport with D2 football like CSU-Pueblo or Mines or basketball like Metro.
 
NMBuff said:
Players have become the brand now. The teams are secondary, for the most part. There are a lot of people that care about individual players than teams. I know people that follow various players in the NBA and if they switch teams they have a new team to follow. Fantasy football has helped contribute to this. People always followed players, but how many 49er fans become Chiefs fans when Montana was forced out?
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The NBA is totally player-driven. Before Melo got traded I would see people around here wearing Nuggets #15 jerseys and they probably don't even know who the hell the Nugs are. The NFL isn't quite as bad but it seems to be getting worse now as far as being more player driven.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
The NBA is totally player-driven. Before Melo got traded I would see people around here wearing Nuggets #15 jerseys and they probably don't even know who the hell the Nugs are. The NFL isn't quite as bad but it seems to be getting worse now as far as being more player driven.
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Are douchebags still wearing NBA jerseys? It may have been a timing thing.
 
What is sports if not entertainment? Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Dr J, Joe Namath, Muhammad Ali, etc.

Sports as entertainment is nothing new. When we pay for sports or watch it, we want to be entertained. We elevate the stars. Modern instant media has made it much more in your face but it's not really different than it has ever been.
 
I thought AB was full of 35-year old dudes making inside jokes--not 65 year old fogies reminiscing about supposed "good 'ol days" that in all likelihood didn't exist in the first place.
 
Buffnik said:
Sports is my break from it. I like the competition and the chess match of sports. What D-Wade wore to the press conference or whether Tiger is having extra-marital affairs isn't relevant to me. And I'm not sure that's necessarily part of it being a business.
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The money makes it a business. Team owners earn big from TV and that trickles down to the players who are less businessman and more lottery winners. But, don't hate the player; hate the game. :smile2:
 
Stopped taking SI when they put Hulk Hogan on the cover, something like 30 years ago. At least ESPN is honest about it - their name has E first, sports second.
 
NW Buff said:
What is sports if not entertainment? Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Dr J, Joe Namath, Muhammad Ali, etc.

Sports as entertainment is nothing new. When we pay for sports or watch it, we want to be entertained. We elevate the stars. Modern instant media has made it much more in your face but it's not really different than it has ever been.
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But did we always get the TMZ type reporting? I'm ok with corporatism. What I don't like is following an athlete like some folks follow movie stars and the royal family.
 
Buffnik said:
But did we always get the TMZ type reporting? I'm ok with corporatism. What I don't like is following an athlete like some folks follow movie stars and the royal family.
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I'm pretty sure we did but I think the athletes had to do a lot more to get to that level. Babe Ruth was certainly followed like a movie star and so were Joe Namath and Muhammad Ali (to name a few).
 
Buffnik said:
But did we always get the TMZ type reporting? I'm ok with corporatism. What I don't like is following an athlete like some folks follow movie stars and the royal family.
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What does Peyton Manning think about this. I must hear his opinion.
 
Buffnik said:
But did we always get the TMZ type reporting? I'm ok with corporatism. What I don't like is following an athlete like some folks follow movie stars and the royal family.
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This may be a big part of it.

We have always had the "stars" who got attention both on and off the field. Football had the Joe Namaths, the Roger Staubauch's, the Joe Greenes, and on and on who got attention for their personalities and for their "stories." Basketball had the players who were "bigger than life" both in size and in lifestyles like Chamberlin and Russell and Bird. Baseball had a bunch of guys who had kids all over America writing school papers about them.

We always knew that these guys weren't perfect but we were allowed to pretend like they were and allowed to ignore the warts unless they got to a point were they interfeared with the game like Horning and Karas getting suspended for gambling.

Now it seems that instead of building up the fantasy or at least ignoring the warts and letting sport be an escape the media is in competition to see who can find the most dirt, who can tear somebody down the most, who can shock the most. Instead of sport being an escape from the world it is now an extension of the part of the world we want to escape.

It's now getting to the point where the positive types of stuff that used to be the standard fare about the guys who were the uplifting characters have been almost completely replaced by the negative. Stuff like Peyton's involvement in the Childrens Hospital in Indy are almost unkown now.
 
NBDefektor said:
I thought AB was full of 35-year old dudes making inside jokes--not 65 year old fogies reminiscing about supposed "good 'ol days" that in all likelihood didn't exist in the first place.
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hey, even the oldest of us are only in our 50's! :lol:
 
Buffnik said:
Sports is my break from it. I like the competition and the chess match of sports. What D-Wade wore to the press conference or whether Tiger is having extra-marital affairs isn't relevant to me. And I'm not sure that's necessarily part of it being a business.
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So the image that companies are selling of these guys isn't an intricate part of the pro-sports spectacle...? Really?
 
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