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State of the TE position

Buffnik

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http://www.buffzone.com/cu-news/ci_23832272/football-cu-buffs-tight-ends-have-plenty-prove

Typical camp stuff about how they've got potential, developed over the summer, can all contribute, etc., etc.

But what stands out is an approach to the way this staff manages personnel and coordination / game planning. There's definitely a new sheriff in town.

Just how much the tight ends see the field is up to them, however. In fact, just a few days into camp, Adams wasn't even sure how often the tight ends will be utilized.

"It'll depend on how much we feel like that position is one of our best 11," he said. "We're going to use more than 11 guys, but when you find out who your best 11 guys are, you try to put them on the field a little bit more than everybody else. So, if we feel like there are two tight ends who are in our top 15 or whatever, we'll use it a lot. If there's only one, we might use it a little bit less. It just depends on how fast we come along and how good our receiving crew looks."
 
Buffnik said:
http://www.buffzone.com/cu-news/ci_23832272/football-cu-buffs-tight-ends-have-plenty-prove

Typical camp stuff about how they've got potential, developed over the summer, can all contribute, etc., etc.

But what stands out is an approach to the way this staff manages personnel and coordination / game planning. There's definitely a new sheriff in town.

Just how much the tight ends see the field is up to them, however. In fact, just a few days into camp, Adams wasn't even sure how often the tight ends will be utilized.

"It'll depend on how much we feel like that position is one of our best 11," he said. "We're going to use more than 11 guys, but when you find out who your best 11 guys are, you try to put them on the field a little bit more than everybody else. So, if we feel like there are two tight ends who are in our top 15 or whatever, we'll use it a lot. If there's only one, we might use it a little bit less. It just depends on how fast we come along and how good our receiving crew looks."
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Actually fitting what you do to the talent available? I didn't know that was allowed in Boulder.

I have a feeling that this team is going to look very different at the end of the year from what we see at the start as the staff adjust to what they discover with our players and as different players develop (or don't.)
 
Just really encouraging seeing an organized, intelligent approach from a CU coaching staff. With appologies to Dan Hawkins (not), they take care of the little things. I think this thing is about to pop.
 
DBT said:
Just really encouraging seeing an organized, intelligent approach from a CU coaching staff. With appologies to Dan Hawkins (not), they take care of the little things. I think this thing is about to pop.
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Spoken like an engineer. (My son's been an engineer for a couple years, but he still won't let me see his train!)

Oh no, pounding square pegs into round holes and confusing personnel with hundred word-long play calls, so that everyone looks like the Keystone Kops on acid (QB Sneak on 1st down anyone?), was the preferred method in Boulder.....UNTIL NOW!
 
Great insight Nik. I like everything I'm hearing so far at camp and before. I was trying to mute my excitement cuz, well, they are the Buffs. But now I say **** it. I'm getting psyched and expect good things and let them prove me wrong.

Go Buffs!!!
 
A cool thing about this approach is guys not only have to compete for their position, but make enough difference in the game so they will be used more. Seems like double motivation.
 
White_Rabbit said:
Who would've guessed that of all positions that Embree would leave in shambles TE would be among all of them?
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But see your point. And if he hadn't had Kasa to move into the position last year we would have been even worse, if that's posible.
 
MtnBuff said:
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But see your point. And if he hadn't had Kasa to move into the position last year we would have been even worse, if that's posible.
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how would TE's be worse this year if Kasa didn't play there last year?
 
tante said:
how would TE's be worse this year if Kasa didn't play there last year?
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I believe Mtn means it would be a sh*tty situation last year too. Basically we'd have had a true frosh in Hobbs and a couple of walk on FB/OL tweeners in Wood and Fernandez. Little bearing on 2013 with that comment.
 
I like what he's saying and I hope he's not just saying it.

Assuming our line can learn pass protection, running a base 4-wide set with Richardson, Spruce, Goodson and McCulloch plus Powell in the backfield would be solid. Then we'd actually have a chance of matching the 35+ points per game our defense is going to give up.
 
aik said:
I believe Mtn means it would be a sh*tty situation last year too. Basically we'd have had a true frosh in Hobbs and a couple of walk on FB/OL tweeners in Wood and Fernandez. Little bearing on 2013 with that comment.
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This is what I meant, the great TE coach wouldn't have had a decent TE if he hadn't lucked into a guy who did it on pure natural athletic ability.
 
I was thinking of the same thing the other day that he left the cupboard so freaking bare in an area you would have thought he could have recruited lights out. I mean, a fantastic TE in college that was part of turning CU into a major player and was an NFL TE and coached some All pro TEs.

But to Nik's point-totally 100% agree that it is refreshing to see that the staff is prepared to go without the TE this year if we don't have one who can really compete at the BCS level. I suspect we won't see much traditional TE based on what we have and the early scouting reports.
 
I say this a lot, but I'll repeat it - Tight Ends are VERY hard to find at the high school level. The vast majority of high schools do not utilize the tight end. It's probably the hardest position to project at the next level, because it involves a very special skill set that is hard to find in high school. Your typical college tight end is either a guy who is too light to play OL or a guy who is too big to play WR. Hell, look at the pros - two of the best ever to play the position were converted from other positions (or in Tony Gonzales' case, another sport altogether). Shannon Sharpe was a WR in college. It's a very, very hard position to recruit because you simply don't know what you're getting.

For colleges that do find good tight ends, they are a huge weapon. We'll simply have to deal with the fact that we don't have that weapon this year.
 
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