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Superconference Fun

Buffnik

Buffnik

Real name isn't Nik
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Figured I'd have some fun with the 16-team superconferences and see how I'd put those pieces together.

ACC-16
Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Miami
North Carolina
Virginia
Wake Forest
+ Pittsburgh, Connecticut, West Virginia, Louisville, South Florida, Syracuse, Cincinnati

Big 16
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Nebraska
Northwestern
Minnesota
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Wisconsin
+ Notre Dam, Rutgers, Kansas, Missouri

Pac-16
Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Washington State
+ Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

SEC-16
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
+ Florida State, Texas A&M, NC State, Virginia Tech

That leaves KSU, ISU and Baylor orphaned from the Big 12 as well as TCU orphaned from the Big East. Rather than joining the MWC, I'd see them starting a new conference on their own. But it would probably pick up enough MWC teams to create another 16-team conference that was just below AQ status.

Air Force
Baylor
Boise State
BYU
Colorado State
Fresno State
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas State
Nevada
New Mexico
San Diego State
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
UNLV
 
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ugh. I really think that the PAc's options after 14 (if youtake OU and UT) really suck ass. Why not wait some years and see which of the more western schools continue to develop?
 
Buffnik said:
That leaves KSU, ISU and Baylor orphaned from the Big 12 as well as TCU orphaned from the Big East. Rather than joining the MWC, I'd see them starting a new conference on their own. But it would probably pick up enough MWC teams to create another 16-team conference that was just below AQ status.

Air Force
Baylor
Boise State
BYU
Colorado State
Fresno State
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas State
Nevada
New Mexico
San Diego State
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
UNLV
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A 16 team conference situated like that would probably be worthy of AQ status. May be able to negotiate a fairly decent television contract as well with some of the markets at play and be compact enough to keep travel costs in check. Although I would substitute UTEP for Tulsa.

Mountain
Boise State
BYU
Air Force
Colorado State
Iowa State
Kansas State
Nevada
UNLV

South
TCU
Baylor
Houston
SMU
Fresno State
SDSU
New Mexic
UTEP
 
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The thought of another round of conference expansion this soon, quite frankly, gives me a queasy stomach. I dread the thought that we might end up in the Big XII South (in effect) after we went through all we did in order to escape those ****tards. I guess I knew that it was likely somewhere down the road, but having it come up this soon is really killing the buzz of the Pac move.

In my perfect world, if Aggy moves to the SEC, the XII Lite scavenges 1 or 3 new schools to fill in and carry on. I dread the prospect of Texas joining the Pac, cringe at the prospect of Tech (really, TECH???) joining the Pac, and am not fond of the Okie schools joining, but ... whatever. Virtually every reason we had for moving last year would be blown out of the water with this expansion scenario. I can only hope (although I'm fairly certain) that Larry Scott would only pursue such an expansion if it were in the very best interest of the existing 12 members.

My hope is that we can kill it with fire. Otherwise, I don't know that we have much choice other than to grin and bear it. This blows.
 
I'm with those who think the PAC12 with 12 teams is perfect. Larry Scott made his bid last spring and got shut down by the Texas schools. Things have changed since then with the Longhorn Network and TAMU probably defecting. There is no reason for the PAC to expand even if the SEC takes on 2 or 4 other schools. The PAC owns the west and is financially sound. The conference will always be viable and if expansion is required, there are options. I'd love to see Texas pound sand.
 
Very interesting from the perspective of the original Pac-10 schools. If I am WSU, Oregon St, etc, I am wondering about the benefits of the potential for additional funds for my program versus the prospect of becoming even a longer shot of ever winning anything in this new mega conference.







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I say revive the ol' southwest conference, minus the gAggies. Bring back SMU and Rice, and then grad one other school (like Houston). Rename it the Dust Bowl 12 and viola, problem solved.

We don't need a remake of Grapes of Wrath. The 12PAC is perfectly fermented, as is.
 
I like the Pac12 as it is too, but expansion is inevitable. As much as we hate Texas, they're still a big fish that (along with a load of bulls**t) brings money, winning programs, good academics, great college town, fertile recruiting ground, oh and MONEY.

Texas will be in the Pac and it will happen soon. Larry Scott has all the leverage right now, and my guess is he will use it now to beat Texas into submission on media rights, revenue sharing, etc. The time to negotiate with Texas is when they are the most vulnerable which is right now as their conference is crumbling around them.

I despise the idea of sharing a conference with Texas again, but I'm resigned to the thought that it's probably inevitable.
 
SINKRATZ said:
I like the Pac12 as it is too, but expansion is inevitable. As much as we hate Texas, they're still a big fish that (along with a load of bulls**t) brings money, winning programs, good academics, great college town, fertile recruiting ground, oh and MONEY.

Texas will be in the Pac and it will happen soon. Larry Scott has all the leverage right now, and my guess is he will use it now to beat Texas into submission on media rights, revenue sharing, etc. The time to negotiate with Texas is when they are the most vulnerable which is right now as their conference is crumbling around them.

I despise the idea of sharing a conference with Texas again, but I'm resigned to the thought that it's probably inevitable.
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We can kick UT's ass. Hey, just dream that it is the early 90's......
 
Buffnik said:
Figured I'd have some fun with the 16-team superconferences and see how I'd put those pieces together.

ACC-16
Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Miami
North Carolina
Virginia
Wake Forest
+ Pittsburgh, Connecticut, West Virginia, Louisville, South Florida, Syracuse, Cincinnati

Big 16
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Nebraska
Northwestern
Minnesota
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Wisconsin
+ Notre Dam, Rutgers, Kansas, Missouri

Pac-16
Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Washington State
+ Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

SEC-16
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
+ Florida State, Texas A&M, NC State, Virginia Tech

That leaves KSU, ISU and Baylor orphaned from the Big 12 as well as TCU orphaned from the Big East. Rather than joining the MWC, I'd see them starting a new conference on their own. But it would probably pick up enough MWC teams to create another 16-team conference that was just below AQ status.

Air Force
Baylor
Boise State
BYU
Colorado State
Fresno State
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas State
Nevada
New Mexico
San Diego State
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
UNLV
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Air force? Air force gets too much respect on this board. The fact is, they suck.
 
Daaah said:
Air force? Air force gets too much respect on this board. The fact is, they suck.
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Air Force sucks? REALLY? Winning with talent every year that no other FBS schools would have is pretty damn good to me. Air Force is a daamn good football team year in year out for the talent they have, DAMN ****ING GOOD TEAM!
 
Daaah said:
Air force? Air force gets too much respect on this board. The fact is, they suck.
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Six bowls this decade. No fewer than 8 wins under Calhoun. Gone 34-18 since 2007 when Calhoun was hired compared to two straight four win seasons under DeBerry.
 
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