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Surprise, surprise ... CU picked last in the South

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NORTH DIVISION 1. Oregon (15)............... 145
2. Stanford (11)............. 139
3. Oregon State............... 95
4. Washington................. 84
5. California..................... 47
6. Washington State......... 33
SOUTH DIVISION
1. UCLA (12)................. 135
2. Arizona State (10)...... 130
3. USC (4)..................... 117
4. Arizona ....................... 76
5. Utah........................... 60
6. Colorado...................... 28

PAC-12 TITLE GAME CHAMPION: Oregon (14 votes)
Others receiving votes: Stanford (8), UCLA (3)
 
Utah has fallen pretty far since joining the pac. This adds strength to the argument against Boise St playing well in a big boy league.
 
I'd probably pick Stanford over Oregon and maybe USC over ASU, but otherwise looks about right. :cry:
 
After Stanford and Oregon I see a whole lot of teams with interchangeable rankings. Like the Big 12 I think it's going to be a very top-heavy league with a couple of contenders and a slew of mediocre records.
 
aik said:
After Stanford and Oregon I see a whole lot of teams with interchangeable rankings. Like the Big 12 I think it's going to be a very top-heavy league with a couple of contenders and a slew of mediocre records.
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I think OSU and UW could really move down and up respectively. UW has a lot of talent in place now.
 
tante said:
Utah has fallen pretty far since joining the pac. This adds strength to the argument against Boise St playing well in a big boy league.
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Utah has fallen, but they would have fallen no matter what conference they were in. I type this from SLC, where I spend a great deal of time, and most fans here get the fact that Utah has been on a straight down decline ever since Kyle fired the OC and canned their spread offense in favor of hiring Norm Chow and his Pro Style offense.

Most believe that Kyle W went on a Ego-Maniac spree after initial success.

see Andy Ludwig at Wisconsin (Utah OC 2005-2008). Ludwig had been hired by Kyle (close friend) but left for Kansas State in 2009, signaling to many that Kyle's ego had become somewhat out of control.

Utah promoted Dave Schramm, but pulled the plug on that when he decided to go in a totally different direction in 2011 with Norm Chow. Dave Schramm is now at Fresno State (Utah QB coach during same time, OC in 2009 & 2010).

Kyle W. is going to be on a serious hotseat if they don't see some success. He's been hiding behind the Pac12 thing, but many people are starting to realize that doesn't begin to explain the fact that Utah State is beating them....
 
J.R. Ewing said:
10 is probably too many, IMO. That would assume wins at ASU, at UCLA, at Oregon St, and home against Boise St and Arizona. All 5 would be a stretch.
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I don't think you can automatically assume losses to Oregon and Stanford.
 
Duff Man said:
If the OL stays healthy, Washington is a 9-10 win team IMO.
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Feels like we've been waiting a couple years now for Washington to make that jump to a 9-10 win team. Just not sold on them yet, though I understand why you've consistently been pretty high on them. Easy to be envious of their talent.
 
It needs to happen this year. That offense is fast and talented. The defense was able to carry the team last year and returns most of the starters. Can Price and the OL hold up their end of the bargain?
 
Price and especially the oline are the real question for UDub. They have weapons to use for sure. I'd go with 9 wins for them.
 
Duff Man said:
I don't think you can automatically assume losses to Oregon and Stanford.
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Oregon hasn't lost to Washington since 2003 and there's no indication that will change this season, especially with how bad UW's o line has been and how mediocre their coach is. UW has to play @ Stanford and has to play against a much better QB than Josh Nunes...very little chance they win that game, either. If they lose to Boise to start the year, I think they have a really bad start to Pac 12 play, too and end up a major disappointment and Sark gets canned.
 
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