Tad Boyle Media Presser Notes and Discussions

[Darth Snow]

King Redshirt this year (last year wanted to, no depth)

Ski and Scott leaders. Ski is both positive and "not positive" influence.

tad reaffirms the 4 starters and a bunch of guys. Gushes about XJ as most improved of those.

Expectations: Sets the floor around .500 in conference with potential to be better. Thinks they should be better.

Needs a defensive stopper - not a single guy has stepped up to try and be that guy.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

Tad just called out his entire locker room with that statement about being the "stopper"

 

[Darth Snow]

Wants to step up the pace of the game on offense. Get to the 3d, 4th option if necessary. Would have to play up to 11 guys if that pace happens.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

Like the idea of attack, attack, attack on offense. You see it with NBA teams all the time, they get that ball movement going and you rotate the defense 3 -4 times, there WILL be an open shot.

 

[Darth Snow]

gives lip service to creating offense through defense, but then admits he just wants all defensive possessions to end with a jump shot with a hand in the defender's face. That's why he's not going to do the full court press too much. Wants to press a lot in the half.

 

[hokiehead]

not sure how I feel about those Booker comments being public. But, I assume Boyle understands whatever psychology he's playing better than I do.

 

[BuffG]

Like the idea of attack, attack, attack on offense. You see it with NBA teams all the time, they get that ball movement going and you rotate the defense 3 -4 times, there WILL be an open shot.

Like Tad said, everyone wants to play fast but, they change their minds after 3-4 possessions in a row of gassers. We'll see. It's that time of year where coaches talk about going 10 deep but then reality hits.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

Josh Scott is awesome with the media.

Worked on adding passing to his game this off season. Wants to help the 3pt shooters out by being a better passer.

 

[wyobuff]

Kind of shocked no one is thinking of wes as the shutdown defender.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

Kind of shocked no one is thinking of wes as the shutdown defender.

He may be, Tad wants him to come out and own it though. Wants him to want to be the shutdown defender.

 

[hokiehead]

Kind of shocked no one is thinking of wes as the shutdown defender.

I think of him as "the best player on the team to take it inside the paint". no disrespect to Josh Scott, but from what I saw last year I think Gordon is better at banging bodies and penetrating to the basket.

 

[RK]

I think of him as "the best player on the team to take it inside the paint". no disrespect to Josh Scott, but from what I saw last year I think Gordon is better at banging bodies and penetrating to the basket.

http://youtu.be/6kS_qLzPWVg?t=5s

 

[Darth Snow]

I think of him as "the best player on the team to take it inside the paint". no disrespect to Josh Scott, but from what I saw last year I think Gordon is better at banging bodies and penetrating to the basket.

wow. how. who, when, someone explain this to me.

 

[Buffnik]

Kind of shocked no one is thinking of wes as the shutdown defender.

Wes is more of a help defender / rim protector, imho. He's a good man defender, but not a shutdown guy like Dre was.

 

[Darth Snow]

Wes is more of a help defender / rim protector, imho. He's a good man defender, but not a shutdown guy like Dre was.

Yup. need someone who can be that primary perimeter defender. Was really hoping it would be Jhop.

 

[wyobuff]

It could also be fletch.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

It could also be fletch.

It could be anybody. Point is, Tad wants someone to want that job. No one has claimed it so far.

 

[Tractor]

Tad Boyle == the Fu@king man.

 

[hokiehead]

wow. how. who, when, someone explain this to me.

anyone know if there's a source for the statistics of "unassisted points per minute played" and "assisted points per minute played"?

I might be wrong -- this is my perception/recollection: Gordon did a better job of penetrating through a crowd into the paint and Scott got most of his paint points on assisted baskets. I could be wrong -- happens a lot.

 

[Darth Snow]

anyone know if there's a source for the statistics of "unassisted points per minute played" and "assisted points per minute played"?

I might be wrong -- this is my perception/recollection: Gordon did a better job of penetrating through a crowd into the paint and Scott got most of his paint points on assisted baskets. I could be wrong -- happens a lot.

Uhhhh, you sure you aren't thinking of someone else?

 

[Denver_sc]

I don't claim to be a basketball guy; like many, I'm part of the unwashed masses from the football side of the board. That said, it seems to me that Spencer's length as a guard allowed them to be really flexible in how they defended opposing guards. Am I wrong on this?

If so, how does the defense look differently this year? Is this where people are talking about Gordon filling in?

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

I don't claim to be a basketball guy; like many, I'm part of the unwashed masses from the football side of the board. That said, it seems to me that Spencer's length as a guard allowed them to be really flexible in how they defended opposing guards. Am I wrong on this?

If so, how does the defense look differently this year? Is this where people are talking about Gordon filling in?

Spencer has length and quickness that make him a nightmare matchup from the PG position. What is being talked about is, Tad said in his presser today that no body has secured the role of being the shutdown defender like spencer did. He wanted to be guarding the other teams best player when it came down to crunch time. No one has stepped up in practice so far and been that guy for this years team. Gordon could, but I don't think he is nearly as quick laterally as he would need to be. I am hoping Fletcher or Hopkins steps up and demands that spot.

 

[Buffnik]

I don't claim to be a basketball guy; like many, I'm part of the unwashed masses from the football side of the board. That said, it seems to me that Spencer's length as a guard allowed them to be really flexible in how they defended opposing guards. Am I wrong on this?

If so, how does the defense look differently this year? Is this where people are talking about Gordon filling in?

Spencer's defense was elite. Not just his length, but a guy his height & length was able to stay in front of the 5'10" jitterbug PGs some teams tried to run at him. Special player.

We don't have that and we won't have that.

What I believe Tad is looking for is someone to be a Nate Tomlinson. Just be nails when manning a guy up. Fight through screens. Harass. Keep the guy in front of him. Body him up after every shot. Just make life hell.

Where's the guy who wants to do that?

This team is missing nastiness.

 

[Darth Snow]

Spencer's defense was elite. Not just his length, but a guy his height & length was able to stay in front of the 5'10" jitterbug PGs some teams tried to run at him. Special player.

We don't have that and we won't have that.

What I believe Tad is looking for is someone to be a Nate Tomlinson. Just be nails when manning a guy up. Fight through screens. Harass. Keep the guy in front of him. Body him up after every shot. Just make life hell.

Where's the guy who wants to do that?

This team is missing nastiness.

Nasty Nate?

 

[wyobuff]

If I remember correctly, they put wes on UCLA's PG last year (anderson?) and we severely limited him. I think wes could be the guy, but mentally he wasnt quite there last year.

 

[jgisland]

anyone know if there's a source for the statistics of "unassisted points per minute played" and "assisted points per minute played"?

I might be wrong -- this is my perception/recollection: Gordon did a better job of penetrating through a crowd into the paint and Scott got most of his paint points on assisted baskets. I could be wrong -- happens a lot.

	FG% at Rim	% Assisted at Rim
Scott	59.6 (115)	52.2 (60)
Gordon	54 (47)	44.7 (21)

numbers in () are the actual number made. So Scott made 115 shots at the rim, 60 were assisted.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

If I remember correctly, they put wes on UCLA's PG last year (anderson?) and we severely limited him. I think wes could be the guy, but mentally he wasnt quite there last year.

physically he wasn't either. The ankle injury he had last year really set him back as the season progressed.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

	FG% at Rim	% Assisted at Rim
Scott	59.6 (115)	52.2 (60)
Gordon	54 (47)	44.7 (21)

numbers in () are the actual number made. So Scott made 115 shots at the rim, 60 were assisted.

 

[torero]

If I remember correctly, they put wes on UCLA's PG last year (anderson?) and we severely limited him. I think wes could be the guy, but mentally he wasnt quite there last year.

Who was 6'9. Very unique. Wes isn't going to be a perimeter stopper guy except in unusual circumstances. Like Nik said, he's a rim protector/help side defender.

 

[hokiehead]

Updated

thanks, the data doesn't back me up -- I'll shut up now.

	FG% at Rim	% Assisted at Rim	unassisted points (season)	minutes played (season)	unassisted ppm
Scott	59.6 (115)	52.2 (60)	110	1106	0.10
Gordon	54 (47)	44.7 (21)	52	778	0.07

numbers in () are the actual number made. So Scott made 115 shots at the rim, 60 were assisted.