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The 2012-13 AllBuffs Men's Basketball Preview: Wofford & Charleston Classic

How will the Buffs do in the Charleston Classic?

  • Beat Dayton, Finish 3-0

    Votes: 10 18.9%
  • Beat Dayton, Finish 2-1

    Votes: 31 58.5%
  • Beat Dayton, Finish 1-2

    Votes: 7 13.2%
  • Lose to Dayton, Finish 2-1

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • Lose to Dayton, Finish 1-2

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Lose to Dayton, Finish 0-3

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .

Goose

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The AllBuffs season preview kicks off today with the first of three days discussing our non-conference opponents. Today we're going to discuss what to expect against Wofford as we raise the banner and give a quick look over the Charleston Classic field, trying to predict where the Buffs could finish after what can be described as a difficult draw. Later this week and into next week, we're going to go in-depth on all of the Pac-12 teams before finally previewing the Buffs and debuting the official AllBuffs Pac-12 Predictions for 2012-13. As always comments, praise, questions, criticism and rep are welcome. So with that, let's start with the first two weeks of the season.

WOFFORD (Southern Conference)

Plays CU: Friday, November 9th at Boulder, CO (5:00 pm/Pac-12 Networks)

The Terriers had to completely rebuild last year after making the NCAA Tournament for two straight seasons. They had to replace 88% of their scoring from the 2010-11 season, so no one really knew what to expect in 2011-12. However the team ended up winning 19 games and making the CBI. Even with the turnover, they continued in their style of relentless defense that wears you down over games.

The Terriers will be led by Karl Cochran in the backcourt. The 6’1” guard averaged 11.1 points and 4.7 rebounds a game last year in his freshman season. He should also be getting help from incoming freshman guard Bryan Harris who originally committed to Duquesne, but ended up opening up his commitment again once they fired their head coach. Up front, the Terriers will get production from 6’7” Lee Skinner who averaged 6 & 6 last year. Talent wise, the Buffs should have an easy time with Wofford, but they’re an incredibly well coached team who will play hard tight defense. The key for the Buffs will be pounding the ball inside and taking advantage of the Terriers lack of size.

DAYTON (Atlantic 10 Conference)

Plays CU: Thursday, November 15th at Charleston Classic (10:30 am/ESPN3)

Initially, I was terrified of this match-up. After spending more time looking over it, I’m merely incredibly concerned. One thing that the Buffs do have going in their favor is the fact that Dayton has suspended starting center Matt Kavanaugh for the season. Suddenly, a frontcourt that was set up to give the Buffs fits becomes a little more manageable. They still have forward Josh Benson who was putting up 10.9 points and 5.2 boards a game before tearing his ACL mid-season, but it remains to be seen how he’ll play after suffering such a serious injury.

The key player to watch for Dayton however is guard Kevin Dillard. Dillard averaged 13.3 points and 6.0 assists a game last season as he led the Flyers to their fifth straight 20+ win season. Dillard spent the summer at the LeBron James Skills Camp and actually stole a bit of the spotlight from players such as Trey Burke (Michigan), Doug McDermott (Creighton) and Isaiah Canaan (Murray State). If the Buffs are going to win, they’re going to need the Mayor to keep Dillard in check.

BAYLOR (Big 12 Conference)
Plays CU: Potentially in the second round depending on the CU/Dayton & Baylor/Boston College games.

The AllBuffs email account had an email pop in its box from “The Walrus” this week. This is what it said.

I consulted with my command lawyer. He was a little concerned by my initial assertion that all Dirty Texas Baptists are liars, and suggested that I qualify that statement. So, I’ll instead say that all of the Dirty Texas Baptists representing Baylor that have posted Allbuffs are liars. Or at least they’re very comfortable rationalizing lies.

And also, Buddy Jones. If the email to the Texas State Legislature that has been publically credited to him is actually his handiwork, he’s a liar too.

Kenneth Starr? What can I say that hasn’t already been said?

Oh, and Waco is awful, of course. But this preview isn’t about places that suck, it’s about people who suck. And lies. Also, it’s a basketball preview.

The Dirty Texas Baptists also lie about redemption. There is no redemption.

How do I know this? If there was, we would have beaten Baylor in football during Hawkins’ last season. Instead CU permitted that game to slip away, 25 to 31 at home. We could have made a point (not the kind that is necessarily reflected on a scoreboard), but instead made Buddy Jones and his contingent of Dirty Texas Baptists look a little more honest than they are.

So, we didn’t finish our conference football series with Baylor in slow-clap fashion. But what’s redemption if you don’t have just one more shot.

This preview is about basketball. Certainly there must be redemption in basketball, and the sins of Buddy Jones and his Waco-Bound-Band of Sycophants will be revisited.

A new conference for CU? Allegations from Baylor fans that we were Big XII rejects, even after this entire tiff was created by their desire to join the Pacific Conference themselves and their leadership’s willingness to take the low road to achieve that end? An unexpected Conference Championship for CU and an even more unlikely rendezvous with The Bears in The Tournament? That smells like redemption.

There is no redemption, of course—it’s a lie. I believe we’ve covered that.

The curse came this time, not in the form of a pudgy self-proclaimed Zenmaster wearing black, gold and a bewildered scowl, but rather a Canadian. A Canadian! I can’t make this **** up! Brady Heslip sank nine three-pointers and our Buffs faced that myth of redemption straight in the eyes.

But maybe, just maybe, in the Charleston Classic, we can achieve something less than redemption, but something that is nonetheless satisfying. A victory against those Dirty Texas Baptists of Baylor. Will we even see Baylor (or rather, will we play them? Of course we’ll see those goofy-ass neon-puke-Limon uniforms)? I don’t know. Brackets confuse me.

But if we do play them, I want to beat them. Not for redemption—despite what their manual says, there is a statute of limitations on redemption, and we’ve already passed it. Not even because they are liars, and their leadership is composed of parochial Republican evil-doers. I want our beloved Buffs to beat them because I hate all people who attend that school, and a victory against them would make me feel better.

**** Baylor.

BOSTON COLLEGE (Atlantic Coast Conference)

Plays CU: Potentially in the second round depending on the CU/Dayton & Baylor/Boston College games.

Last year, BC had one player in their starting lineup that wasn’t a true freshman, and he was a first year transfer. Needless to say, there were some growing pains early on as the team struggled getting out to a 2-7 start. However, by the time conference play rolled around, the team was starting to gel and finally hit their stride as they took down ACC champions Florida State at home. This year, they’re hoping to continue on that development, and the big key is going to be yet another freshman. True PG Olivier Hanlan could be the key to the team. With him running the point, it could truly help Ryan Anderson and Patrick Heckman reach the next level necessary.

Anderson is the only player from last year’s freshman class to even sniff the top 100 of most recruiting lists and was on the All-ACC Freshman team after putting up 11.2 points and 7.4 rebounds a game. Heckman is a 6-foot-5 wing who was streaky last year. He put up 32 over UC Riverside and then averaged 18.5 in wins over New Hampshire and Stony Brook. He then started to struggle at midseason and got mono, putting him into a deeper slump. BC isn’t winning the ACC this year, but if Hanlan can run the point for the team, they could become a team that no one wants to face.

AUBURN (Southeastern Conference)
Plays CU: Potentially in the third round.

Auburn has a brand new squad this season. Five players left the team due to dismissal or transfers and they are welcoming in a group of seven newcomers – two freshmen, two JuCo and a transfer from Virginia. They’re hoping that this new mix combined with the four seniors on the roster will allow them to compete in a deep and tough SEC. The player to watch for Auburn is Frankie Sullivan, a senior guard who put up 12.6 points, 3.9 rebounds, 2.3 assists and 1.4 steals a game last eyar.

COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON (Southern Conference)
Plays CU:
Potentially in the third round.

The home team in the tournament is undergoing a bit of a transition this season. After Bobby Cremins took a leave of absence last season, Charleston didn’t know what they were going to do. Luckily, Doug Wojcik was inexplicably fired by Tulsa, and CoC was there to swoop him up. They will be led by point guard Andrew Lawrence this year. The 6-1 senior put up 13 points and 5.5 assists a game last year and was chosen to be on Great Britain’s basketball team for the Olympics. You have to imagine that playing with Luol Deng and going against some of the greatest athletes in the world will be good for his confidence, and if things click under the new staff, CoC has as good of a chance as any to win the Southern Conference and go dancing.

MURRAY STATE (Ohio Valley Conference)

Plays CU: Potentially in the third round.

The Racers were the darling of the mid-majors last year, as they only lost one game in the regular season before going 1-1 and losing in the third (I hate the new naming system) round of the NCAA Tournament. While they lose three seniors off of the team that went 31-2, they return their best player in Isaiah Canaan. The senior had an offensive rating of 122.2 last year and was one of the main reasons that the Racers had a top 100 offensive rating as a team. While they won’t be able to match last year’s record, Murray State should still be a dangerous matchup.

ST. JOHN’S (Big East Conference)

Plays CU: Potentially in the third round.

St. John’s is young, but incredibly talented. Leading the way for the Johnnie’s is guard D’Angelo Harrison. The sophomore averaged 17.0 points, 3.9 rebounds, 2.0 assists and 1.7 steals per game last year, earning praise all season in the Big East. Up front, they have a lot to be excited about in incoming freshman Christian Jones. He’s only 6-foot-7, but at 228 pounds he can pound down low. Many expect him to be their starting PF after scoring 15.0 points and 6.0 rebounds a game as a senior at James Bowie High School in Dallas. While they may not be dancing this year, they should be NIT bound at least, and are a team to fear in this tournament.
 
:congrats:

That's just amazing. Who is the walrus?

And I'm a little confused by the Wofford write up... did they lose 88% this year, or last year?
 
:congrats:

That's just amazing. Who is the walrus?

And I'm a little confused by the Wofford write up... did they lose 88% this year, or last year?

Poor wording on my part. They lost 88% before last season.
 
Great preview Goose.

The Wofford game is going to be very interesting. I don't see the Buffs losing by any imagination, but with the odd start time I want to see how they come out right out of the gate. The crowd will probably be filling in late, can the starting unit start out hot or do they come out flat?
 
Excellent.

Wofford will prove tougher than expected, but the Buffs win.

Buffs lose to Dayton, but bounce back for 2-1 with a win over BC and a close win over a decent Murray State/St. John's that we'll be thankful for in March.
 
Excellent.

Wofford will prove tougher than expected, but the Buffs win.

Buffs lose to Dayton, but bounce back for 2-1 with a win over BC and a close win over a decent Murray State/St. John's that we'll be thankful for in March.

Do you have Murray State losing to Auburn and St. John's losing to Charleston?
 
Do you have Murray State losing to Auburn and St. John's losing to Charleston?

Good point. Wasn't even thinking of that honestly, just assumed the 1-1 teams would be halfway decent, but you're right that they both have favorable first games to put them in the winners bracket. I would say, however, that it's not out of the question for Charleston to ride the hometown momentum and knock off St. John's. Weird **** like that always happens early in the season and I like CofC to win the SoCon. I'll stand by 2-1 with an opening loss to Dayton, I really do think that's the likely path for us. However, you're right that we may be leaving Charleston with 2 wins that don't really mean a whole lot unless BC or someone can prove to be a pleasant surprise.
 
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If we beat Dayton, I think we lose to Baylor (**** Baylor) and have a tough game against St. John's. If we lose to Dayton, we beat BC and Charleston.
 
If we beat Dayton, I think we lose to Baylor (**** Baylor) and have a tough game against St. John's. If we lose to Dayton, we beat BC and Charleston.

False. We're going to make teams our bitches, especially Baylor and that Justin Beiber wanna be ****. In summary, we're gonna win.
 
False. We're going to make teams our bitches, especially Baylor and that Justin Beiber wanna be ****. In summary, we're gonna win.

At the end of this year, I'm either going to buy you 10,000 beers in Vegas for being so optimistic (and right) or I'm going to kick your ass for being so optimistic (and wrong). I'm just not sure which. :lol:
 
At the end of this year, I'm either going to buy you 10,000 beers in Vegas for being so optimistic (and right) or I'm going to kick your ass for being so optimistic (and wrong). I'm just not sure which. :lol:
:lol: I'll still be 20 in Vegas so I'll take that raincheck for next fall
 
I'm trying to keep my fantasies of beating Baylor and the subsequent immature, brief, period of trolling that will ensue afterwards in check for the time being. Mainly because I'm not particularly optimistic about even playing Baylor. 50/50 at best...
 
Screw all this wishy-washy junkola. We thump Wofford and go unbeaten in the C'ton classic.

Won't be long before we start seeing teams trying to schedule the Buffs OOC so they can boost THEIR rpi.
 
Screw all this wishy-washy junkola. We thump Wofford and go unbeaten in the C'ton classic.

Won't be long before we start seeing teams trying to schedule the Buffs OOC so they can boost THEIR rpi.

Yep. Can't wait for the day we see bubble caliber team message boards blowing up over how they need to sacrifice themselves on the Keg altar in order to get the RPI bump.
 
Yep. Can't wait for the day we see bubble caliber team message boards blowing up over how they need to sacrifice themselves on the Keg altar in order to get the RPI bump.

And then we hire Rugged as AD and get some actual sacrifices going in pre-game.
 
At the end of this year, I'm either going to buy you 10,000 beers in Vegas for being so optimistic (and right) or I'm going to kick your ass for being so optimistic (and wrong). I'm just not sure which. :lol:

:lol: I'll still be 20 in Vegas so I'll take that raincheck for next fall

I turn 21 a few days before... I will gladly accept the beers on Tini's behalf.
 
Hey guys. I am a 1994 graduate of WoffordCollege. I live in Spartanburg, SC, the home of Wofford. The Terriers will be your first opponent this season. FYI, here is a Wofford preview that I put together:

http://www.mocsmania.blogspot.com/2012/10/wofford-preview-will-youth-be-served.html

We are a defensive minded team, as Coach Mike Young believes that good defense is the best way to stay in games and have a chance to win. We are also a very young team, with 8 freshmen and 5 sophomores among our 15 players. I don't anticipate Colorado having an extremely tough time with Wofford, but I do know that Young will make sure our guys fight to the final whistle and give it everything they have. As you can see, our game with you will be the very first real college game experience for a number of our players, so try to go easy on them...don't get them too discouraged their first time out! :smile:
 
Hey guys. I am a 1994 graduate of WoffordCollege. I live in Spartanburg, SC, the home of Wofford. The Terriers will be your first opponent this season. FYI, here is a Wofford preview that I put together:

http://www.mocsmania.blogspot.com/2012/10/wofford-preview-will-youth-be-served.html

We are a defensive minded team, as Coach Mike Young believes that good defense is the best way to stay in games and have a chance to win. We are also a very young team, with 8 freshmen and 5 sophomores among our 15 players. I don't anticipate Colorado having an extremely tough time with Wofford, but I do know that Young will make sure our guys fight to the final whistle and give it everything they have. As you can see, our game with you will be the very first real college game experience for a number of our players, so try to go easy on them...don't get them too discouraged their first time out! :smile:

Rep this man

thanks for the post, just read the write-up on the link and have question on Karl Cochran. Is he going to play PG or off the ball this year? Also how did he (being 6-1) leade the team in both blocks and steals?
 
Rep this man

thanks for the post, just read the write-up on the link and have question on Karl Cochran. Is he going to play PG or off the ball this year? Also how did he (being 6-1) leade the team in both blocks and steals?

Cochran will be playing the off guard position, not PG. As for how he lead the team in both blocks and steals, that is a very good question. He is very quick and athletic with amazing hops for his size, and he just out-athletes a lot of bigger guys at the Southern Conference level (but probably not the Pac-12 level). Unless one of the new guys really steps up in an unexpectedly huge way, Cochran should be by far the best player on the floor for the Terriers.
 
Cochran will be playing the off guard position, not PG. As for how he lead the team in both blocks and steals, that is a very good question. He is very quick and athletic with amazing hops for his size, and he just out-athletes a lot of bigger guys at the Southern Conference level (but probably not the Pac-12 level). Unless one of the new guys really steps up in an unexpectedly huge way, Cochran should be by far the best player on the floor for the Terriers.

sounds like he and Booker will be a good match up. Quick, athletic and good hops for his size pretty much describes Booker as well.
 
Hey guys. I am a 1994 graduate of WoffordCollege. I live in Spartanburg, SC, the home of Wofford. The Terriers will be your first opponent this season. FYI, here is a Wofford preview that I put together:

http://www.mocsmania.blogspot.com/2012/10/wofford-preview-will-youth-be-served.html

We are a defensive minded team, as Coach Mike Young believes that good defense is the best way to stay in games and have a chance to win. We are also a very young team, with 8 freshmen and 5 sophomores among our 15 players. I don't anticipate Colorado having an extremely tough time with Wofford, but I do know that Young will make sure our guys fight to the final whistle and give it everything they have. As you can see, our game with you will be the very first real college game experience for a number of our players, so try to go easy on them...don't get them too discouraged their first time out! :smile:

Welcome, I've been to your campus in Spartanburg, nice place and solid college. One of my best friends attended. Young has established a very solid program for you guys and I love how you play defense. You're competing for (and often winning) SoCon championships on a yearly basis and have made some noise when you got into the Big Dance. I'll be very interested to see how the Buffs fare against your defense. Even though you guys have a ton of new faces this year, I would not at all be surprised if this game remained fairly close for quite a while.
 
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