The Good, the Bad and the Ugly...plus comments..Arizona Style!!!

[BlackNGold]

I decided I would keep doing this after every game - maybe it is self therapy!

The Good

There is not much good to report. I thought Sefo's pocket presence was good. Arizona did not put much pressure on him which surprised me. Adkins had some nice runs. The long FGs. Other than that is was not very good.

The Bad

A lot of bad but I will not be able to cover it all. The problems that have plagued CU all year are still there, no penetration from the DLine, inconsistent offense, etc. Letting Arizona get 670 yards of offense was very bad - the CU defense is probably worse than last year. We gave up 409 yards rushing and made Denker look like Johnny Football (which he is not). The offense continues to be Paul Richardson.

The Ugly

When I mentioned my concern with Attendance for the Charleston Southern game I was told that it was a rescheduled game on an open date and what did I expect - attendance was okay and I would see at the Arizona game. Well I did see - 38600 in attendance. The game was scheduled well in advance, it was homecoming and a black out game. We have a problem and ignore it all you want. And for those in attendance they did not think CU was in the game after the UA TD at the end of the half. The stream to exits was constant and the stands were pretty empty in the 4th Quarter.

The other ugly thing was MacIntyre's press conference. To coach MacIntyre: This is going to be a tough gig but you are being paid $2 Million a year so you can stand to do it right - it is way too early for a siege mentality.

 

[Duff Man]

Can't disagree with any of it, except to add Paul Richardson to the good. Special player.

 

[sackman]

Attendance is going to be a problem going forward. Particularly student attendance. The games are depressing. It's not hard to imagine a lot of people deciding to do something else on a Saturday afternoon.

 

[PAHIBuff]

Attendance is going to be a problem going forward. Particularly student attendance. The games are depressing. It's not hard to imagine a lot of people deciding to do something else on a Saturday afternoon.

Student Attendance: If the weather was great, I was caught up on my studying, I had a bit of pre-game bud, a double Bushmills (neat) and a newly found co-ed gal buddy, I'd go for sure. :nod: Today's young folks don't stress out much.....:violin:

 

[Mick Ronson]

this game was particularly discouraging for me. i thought we'd be more competitive and decent shot to get the W.

 

[Quattro]

I guess I don't see what was wrong with MacIntyre's post game. He was obviously pissed but didn't throw any players under, took ownership, and was pissed....whoops already said that :smile2:

 

[leftybuff]

Truth is, seven years of Bohn, Dr. Phil, BB incompetence has just about killed CUFB. I am a huge fan. I really don't even care if they lose anymore, and I only go to games now when they fit into my schedule, instead of rearranging my schedule to got games. CU has to take drastic steps, University wide, to get some W's soon or it will be irretrievable.

 

[sackman]

Truth is, seven years of Bohn, Dr. Phil, BB incompetence has just about killed CUFB. I am a huge fan. I really don't even care if they lose anymore, and I only go to games now when they fit into my schedule, instead of rearranging my schedule to got games. CU has to take drastic steps, University wide, to get some W's soon or it will be irretrievable.

it won't be irretrievable, but its going to take a long time. A lot of folks will drop out. The games are depressing. The game itself isn't any fun. It's not enjoyable. I go for the tailgates. CU is really close to screwing that up, too. Take away the tailgating, and I have no reason to be there at all. That's what they're up against.

 

[Darth Snow]

students have given up on the team. really sad. As bad as I've ever seen, especially considering the situation (3-3, night game, great weather). The student culture for football is dead.

 

[Deleted member 807]

it won't be irretrievable, but its going to take a long time. A lot of folks will drop out. The games are depressing. The game itself isn't any fun. It's not enjoyable. I go for the tailgates. CU is really close to screwing that up, too. Take away the tailgating, and I have no reason to be there at all. That's what they're up against.

Honest question. How is CU's path back to football relevance any different than that of Indiana, Purdue, Kansas, or Mississippi State? I mean CU could be perennial bottom feeders for years and years to come.

 

[Idot Buff]

students have given up on the team. really sad. As bad as I've ever seen, especially considering the situation (3-3, night game, great weather). The student culture for football is dead.

students and alums have given up....and it is incredibly sad.

I really do not see the blueprint to turn this thing around.

 

[Idot Buff]

Honest question. How is CU's path back to football relevance any different that that of Indiana, Purdue, Kansas, or Mississippi State? I mean we could be perennial bottom feeders for years and years to come?

Yes.....that has been my exact conclusion over the last 24 hours.

 

[BuffClass90]

Honest question. How is CU's path back to football relevance any different than that of Indiana, Purdue, Kansas, or Mississippi State? I mean CU could be perennial bottom feeders for years and years to come.

This.

 

[sackman]

Honest question. How is CU's path back to football relevance any different than that of Indiana, Purdue, Kansas, or Mississippi State? I mean CU could be perennial bottom feeders for years and years to come.

The only difference is our history and tradition, and that's not much. However, even schools like that can catch lightning in a bottle with the right coach at the right time. That's what we have to hope for - catch lightning in a bottle.

 

[CVilleBuff]

I guess I don't see what was wrong with MacIntyre's post game. He was obviously pissed but didn't throw any players under, took ownership, and was pissed....whoops already said that :smile2:

I have no issue with it either. I see an extremely competitive coach who takes the losses very personally. That's obviously no guarantee of future success and I'm certainly not implying that, but I have zero issue with his post-game remarks. This loss stung more than the others being that it was against a bottom half Pac squad at home.

The attendance will be fine if/when we show signs of life. We always knew the bottom would fall out at some point as the losing seasons piled up. 1-11 last year did it. However, Buff fans aren't gone forever. They'll be back at the slightest sign of life. Those of you who witnessed the '09/'10 basketball season will know exactly what I mean (a year we went 15-16). Buff fans will come back, and quickly, at the slightest sign of being competitive.

 

[Deleted member 807]

The only difference is our history and tradition, and that's not much. However, even schools like that can catch lightning in a bottle with the right coach at the right time. That's what we have to hope for - catch lightning in a bottle.

History and tradition only go so far. Minnesota won a half dozen national championships and had a dynasty between 1934 and 1941. Their football history goes back to 1882. But their glory years don't appear to be coming back. For other examples of programs with multiple national championship pedigrees include Harvard and Army. Even the University of Chicago, which no longer has a devision 1 or division 2 football program claims two national championships.

The schools who caught lightning in a bottle in recent years might include Auburn, Oregon, Baylor, and Oklahoma State.
Each of these programs have institutional support that simply does not exist anymore in Boulder.


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[4thGenBuff]

Colorado has always had fair weatherish fans. Case in point basketball the 09-10 and 10-11 games were still sparsely attended. I actually thought the stadium sans the student section looked pretty filled out yesterday.

I thought the crowd was quiet and beaten down like they were going to a funeral before it started. Had to yell a lot to get people in my section amped. My brother and I both agreed that Folsom needs beer in the worst way possible. If the product in the field can not improve, lets improve the products in the stands. That crowd could get ten times as rowdy and still would be considered lame by my Grandma.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

Add to the good, that we kept the nation's leading rusher to 119yds. Before the game I figured that if we held Carey to less than 150yds that we would have a very good chance to win. Didn't know their QB would run for 192yds.

As I have said this morning in other threads, facility upgrades will bring some excitement back to boulder. It will directly engage the core group of fans, which is dwindling. Show some serious investment and the fans will come back. Would be a good idea to detonate the current agreements with the school. Let all sports players from instate get instate tuition. Let players earn instate eligibility. It would save the AD a ton of money, and CU still gets its tuition. DiStephano doesn't need a bi-annual raise... Need to get the Regents to push for the repeal of that law on contract limits. Lets get some good assistants in here. And FFS let Solich have a little authority in the AD. If he wants to spend his money here and have a little say in what happens with it, then so be it. I don't think I have ever seen a University so hostile towards people who want to give them money.

 

[BuffUp]

Add to the good, that we kept the nation's leading rusher to 119yds. Before the game I figured that if we held Carey to less than 150yds that we would have a very good chance to win. Didn't know their QB would run for 192yds.

agree and "CU, the team that makes your QB look like a Heisman candidate".

 

[BuffClass90]

Add to the good, that we kept the nation's leading rusher to 119yds. Before the game I figured that if we held Carey to less than 150yds that we would have a very good chance to win. Didn't know their QB would run for 192yds.

As I have said this morning in other threads, facility upgrades will bring some excitement back to boulder. It will directly engage the core group of fans, which is dwindling. Show some serious investment and the fans will come back. Would be a good idea to detonate the current agreements with the school. Let all sports players from instate get instate tuition. Let players earn instate eligibility. It would save the AD a ton of money, and CU still gets its tuition. DiStephano doesn't need a bi-annual raise... Need to get the Regents to push for the repeal of that law on contract limits. Lets get some good assistants in here. And FFS let Solich have a little authority in the AD. If he wants to spend his money here and have a little say in what happens with it, then so be it. I don't think I have ever seen a University so hostile towards people who want to give them money.

I'm not sure people will buy tickets just because we have new facilities. The only reason people will come back is a good product on the field. Even if we were 7-5 but very competitive, you'll see people come back.

 

[Quattro]

I'm not sure people will buy tickets just because we have new facilities. The only reason people will come back is a good product on the field. Even if we were 7-5 but very competitive, you'll see people come back.

People will come back if they show a commitment to winning, which is what announcing facilities would do.


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[BuffClass90]

I guess I don't see what was wrong with MacIntyre's post game. He was obviously pissed but didn't throw any players under, took ownership, and was pissed....whoops already said that :smile2:

I agree. I think he knows this game was his chance to get to a bowl game. It's effectively over now, unless we catch USC in a bad day and steal one from Utah in SLC. I'd like to see 1-2 more wins...going from 1 to 5 wins would be impressive...but not likely.

 

[sackman]

People will come back if they show a commitment to winning, which is what announcing facilities would do.


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No they won't. They'll come back if we start winning. Period. We might be able to attract some recruits with some improved facilities, though. That can lead to some more wins.

Long and short - this is going to be an excruciatingly long process. This isn't getting turned around in one year, or two. Or three. Maybe four if we're lucky.

 

[Quattro]

No they won't. They'll come back if we start winning. Period. We might be able to attract some recruits with some improved facilities, though. That can lead to some more wins.

Long and short - this is going to be an excruciatingly long process. This isn't getting turned around in one year, or two. Or three. Maybe four if we're lucky.

Showing a winning commitment will bring a good amount back, winning is what will bring almost all back, and then the bandwagon fans. At the very least facilities gets people excited again.


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[Shldr2Shldr]

If they showed me a plan for facilities upgrades and returning the program to relevance, I would purchase season tickets.

 

[4thGenBuff]

once again... best chance of getting people back is beer.
And At this point beer is more likely than winning.

 

[sackman]

once again... best chance of getting people back is beer.
And At this point beer is more likely than winning.

This.

For a short term fix, bring back beer.

 

[CUFan]

once again... best chance of getting people back is beer.
And At this point beer is more likely than winning.

I'm for this. Let's bring beer back. Win, win for everyone.

Unrelated, but I also would like to start cheating and paying players. I'm sick of this garbage we regurgitate on the field every Saturday.

 

[BlackNGold]

Showing a winning commitment will bring a good amount back, winning is what will bring almost all back, and then the bandwagon fans. At the very least facilities gets people excited again.


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You are incorrect. Several years ago I was one of the biggest Bronco fans around and I had season tickets that were some of the most prime around in the Old Mile High(my priority number was 3 digits). When they built the new stadium the F***ed us on the seating. I sold my ticket rights and I am now a casual Bronco fan. I watch about 3 games a year on TV and only go about once every couple of years - I get invites almost weekly but do not care enough to go. Once you kill that enthusiasm it does not come back.

CU is now killing the enthusiasm of their core fans(donors), I write a nice check to CU every spring - when I quit writing that check, I will not start again just because they win. My interests will have moved onto other things.

 

[sackman]

You are incorrect. Several years ago I was one of the biggest Bronco fans around and I had season tickets that were some of the most prime around in the Old Mile High(my priority number was 3 digits). When they built the new stadium the F***ed us on the seating. I sold my ticket rights and I am now a casual Bronco fan. I watch about 3 games a year on TV and only go about once every couple of years - I get invites almost weekly but do not care enough to go. Once you kill that enthusiasm it does not come back.

CU is now killing the enthusiasm of their core fans(donors), I write a nice check to CU every spring - when I quit writing that check, I will not start again just because they win. My interests will have moved onto other things.

The difference here is that the Broncos don't give a damn whether you're a ticket holder or not. It makes not one bit of difference to them if you are a paying customer. CU, on the other hand, should be doing everything in their power to hold on to supporters like you.