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The Recruiting Game

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Saban is upset because Michigan is going to take the football team to Florida for spring break. Michigan is going to be working out at the IMG Academy which also happens to have a top tier football program with several highly sought recruits.

Now, I don't know the contact rules during the spring break period. I'd imagine Michigan cannot initiate contact with these recruits but the recruits can initiate contact with Michigan. Is that correct? I'd be interested to read what people's takes are on this deal as it relates to recruiting. Saban wants the NCAA to create a rule against teams practicing during spring break. Of course, he wants that rule to keep the likes of Michigan away from the southeast (Florida) recruiting grounds.

Michigan, OTOH, is obviously taking advantage of the rules under the guise of spring practice to both reward his players with a paid spring break to Florida as well as a not too subtle recruiting advantage over everyone else. To me, this is another case of the "haves", the "NCAA 1 percenters" sticking it to the "NCAA middle class."
 
If it's within the rules, sounds like a great idea. But you make a great point...the difference between the haves and have nots continues to grow in CFB which really sucks IMO. And if it pisses off Saban, it's a GREAT idea!
 
I think it is way too far. I don't mind the satellite camps in other states over the summer in different areas but to take your team to another state for practice is just dumb. And I believe the SEC already has a rule against it.
 
onealcd said:
I think it is way too far. I don't mind the satellite camps in other states over the summer in different areas but to take your team to another state for practice is just dumb. And I believe the SEC already has a rule against it.
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Thinking it's dumb vs being against NCAA rules are two completely different things. I can only hope CU gets to a point where they are causing legal controversy by getting creative like this.
 
The SEC has stretched the rules, covered up cheating and defended their "territories" by turning up and coming competitors in, I am all for disrupting their stronghold. Don't hate other teams for doing something, CU needs to get on the ball.
 
DBT said:
Yeah, on the one hand, Go Michigan! Screw the SEC! OTOH, screw Michigan, they are getting away with **** we can't ever hope to do and the recruiting gap is just getting wider.
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Why can't we ever hope to do this? If it's legal and UM is doing it, why can't we go practice at Long Beach Poly or De La Salle?

Edit: Maybe we go practice at La Mirada??
 
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TSchekler said:
Thinking it's dumb vs being against NCAA rules are two completely different things. I can only hope CU gets to a point where they are causing legal controversy by getting creative like this.
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It's not really creative to go down to Florida and practice for a week, I'm sure tons of school have that thought every year. I am saying I think it is going too far and I actually agree that the SEC has a point with this one despite being wrong about satellite camps. I really hope CU never "thinks" of something like this.
 
Let's hire a solid Poly recruiter and take the team to Hawaii for a week of Spring Practices.

I agree though that this is another example of the growing division between the $$$$$$ programs and the $$ programs. I also agree that it is a blatant attempt to get some extra recruting in outside the normal bounds.

I wonder if Michigan would be interested if the NCAA said that they can only go there when school is not in session at IMG and that IMG students cannot have any contact with MIchigan staff or player including not being able to observe practices or use practice facilities when Michigan coaches and/or players are present.

If I were an opposing coach talking to recruits I would remind them that the weather in Michigan sucks so bad that they don't even want to do spring practice there, do you want to spend four years living there?
 
onealcd said:
It's not really creative to go down to Florida and practice for a week, I'm sure tons of school have that thought every year. I am saying I think it is going too far and I actually agree that the SEC has a point with this one despite being wrong about satellite camps. I really hope CU never "thinks" of something like this.
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Ok, maybe creative wasn't the right word, but if there's no rule against it, what's the draw back? And why do you think it's going too far? After all, this is big business recruiting, right?
 
TSchekler said:
Ok, maybe creative wasn't the right word, but if there's no rule against it, what's the draw back? And why do you think it's going too far? After all, this is big business recruiting, right?
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I think shipping an entire football team to another state just to practice is "too far." Add on top of that that the SEC already has a rule that teams cannot do this so as much complaining we all do about the SEC they are already one step ahead in preventing over the top moves. Once again, I have no problem with Harbaugh hosting a million summer satellite camps as he tries to find players from all over the country but saying they are going to to "practice" when everyone else knows exactly what they are doing is too much IMO.
 
onealcd said:
I think shipping an entire football team to another state just to practice is "too far." Add on top of that that the SEC already has a rule that teams cannot do this so as much complaining we all do about the SEC they are already one step ahead in preventing over the top moves. Once again, I have no problem with Harbaugh hosting a million summer satellite camps as he tries to find players from all over the country but saying they are going to to "practice" when everyone else knows exactly what they are doing is too much IMO.
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We can agree to disagree, I guess. I don't see this as an over-the-top move at all, as long as it's not against NCAA rules. **** the SEC, **** Bama, and **** Nick Saban.
 
I wonder how the student athletes feel about having to practice over spring break? Don't most programs take Spring break off? I would be kind of pissed if I was on the team. If I were a parent of a kid on the team and my son couldn't come home for a visit because of this **** I would be very very pissed. I think the reason this is over the top has nothing to do with the NCAA or the SEC, it is over the top because it is a ****ty thing to do to these kids who already work all winter, spring, summer, fall for their scholarship.
 
I would imagine the NCAA will probably put in a rule, because of this. I don't see any problem with it. I would have liked to be a fly on the wall when Saban found out.
 
I've heard of collegiate golf teams taking a week in a warmer climate to work on their games in the winter/early spring. What is the difference?
 
Heywood said:
I wonder how the student athletes feel about having to practice over spring break? Don't most programs take Spring break off? I would be kind of pissed if I was on the team. If I were a parent of a kid on the team and my son couldn't come home for a visit because of this **** I would be very very pissed. I think the reason this is over the top has nothing to do with the NCAA or the SEC, it is over the top because it is a ****ty thing to do to these kids who already work all winter, spring, summer, fall for their scholarship.
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THIS AIN'T INTRAMURALS, BROTHA!!!
 
buffalo1 said:
I've heard of collegiate golf teams taking a week in a warmer climate to work on their games in the winter/early spring. What is the difference?
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In golf, cold weather teams "host" tournaments in warm weather locations. They have to be able to do that, obviously, in order to compete. But these are actual in season matches/tournaments. Same goes for skiing, XC, etc.
 
Heywood said:
I wonder how the student athletes feel about having to practice over spring break? Don't most programs take Spring break off? I would be kind of pissed if I was on the team. If I were a parent of a kid on the team and my son couldn't come home for a visit because of this **** I would be very very pissed. I think the reason this is over the top has nothing to do with the NCAA or the SEC, it is over the top because it is a ****ty thing to do to these kids who already work all winter, spring, summer, fall for their scholarship.
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Completely ****ty. "Who wants to go to Florida for free over spring break?" crickets. :cautious:
 
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for some reason this came to mind when I first saw the title to this thread -
 
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