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there was a time, not that many years ago...

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when i thought that the worst excesses in college football were behind us. i believed that things, while not perfect, were better than back in the "bad old days"...

i thought that, altho very flawed, the ncaa actually had made things cleaner.

i thought that, altho very flawed, the college presidents actually cared more about educating all of their students, including athletes, rather than collecting tv checks.

looking back at the "best" teams these last few years, i am wondering if we aren't in a golden age of cheating.

ohio state, usc, auburn... the list goes on and on.

have we finally hit the inflection point?

i am very fired up about the new p12 tv deal--- to me, it shows how great college sports really are... but, will it be required to break the rules (and i am not talking about the bs, rinky-dink stupid little rules-- i'm talking about pay to play and academic fraud, primarily) to be competitive in major college sports from here forward?

and, if so, how long before there is a backlash?

just asking...
 
as I am reading your post... I am thinking... wow, he is an idealist... and as we get closer to the bottom, I am now thinking.... you are a blood sucking lawyer for god sakes.... how can you write this crap without laughing.....
 
PhillyBuff said:
as I am reading your post... I am thinking... wow, he is an idealist... and as we get closer to the bottom, I am now thinking.... you are a blood sucking lawyer for god sakes.... how can you write this crap without laughing.....
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there is a part of me that still wants to believe in the purity of sports, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. don't worry, i am sure the next big scandal will crush that tiny little bit of hope.
 
Liver said:
there is a part of me that still wants to believe in the purity of sports, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. don't worry, i am sure the next big scandal will crush that tiny little bit of hope.
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I actually believe things are a little better now than back in the old day's. I can remember plenty of rumors of blue chip players being paid thousands for a part time job screwing in a few light bulbs or driving new cars from booster dealerships that they owned or leased free of charge - not to mention the $500-$1000 hand shakes. Charles Barkley was joking about the first time he saw Dirk Nowitzki playing high school basketball in Germany. He said I thought about handing him a blank check, and telling him after you fill it out - you will be playing for Auburn. Wonder where he got that idea?
 
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Liver said:
there is a part of me that still wants to believe in the purity of sports, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. don't worry, i am sure the next big scandal will crush that tiny little bit of hope.
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purity of sports exists, unfortunately you can only find it in intramurals, brutha...
 
George Gipp spent his weeks in Chicago; gambling, drinking, and chasing women. On Saturdays he played football in South Bend.
 
FChairbanks said:
purity of sports exists, unfortunately you can only find it in intramurals, brutha...
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Yup, but the trade off is that it lacks the excellence of athletics.
Is this the trade off we will be stuck with in the future? Eithier purity or excellence but never both?
 
FChairbanks said:
purity of sports exists, unfortunately you can only find it in intramurals, brutha...
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I suppose an argument could be made that the School of Mines, UNC, and CSU-Pueblo offer up a more pure form of college athletics.

If purity were a mass-market value, those programs would fill more seats.
 
SJBuff said:
Yup, but the trade off is that it lacks the excellence of athletics.
Is this the trade off we will be stuck with in the future? Eithier purity or excellence but never both?
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wait... I have a CU intramurals T-shirt.... isnt that excellence?
 
PhillyBuff said:
wait... I have a CU intramurals T-shirt.... isnt that excellence?
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any "sport" where one can play/participate while heavily under the influence of alcohol or other recreational substances is excellent.
 
I highly doubt competitive sports have ever been pure, ESPECIALLY when there is money on the line.
 
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