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This Offense Doesn't Travel

Darth Snow

Darth Snow

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I wanted to see the splits between road and home. The usual caveats with strength of schedule applying, they are drastic:

ColoradoCSUNHUCLAASUAverage
Passing 338311268328311.25
Rushing258180209166203.25
Total596491477494514.5
Points4545382839
AwayNebraskaUSCUW
Passing 351170144 221.7
Rushing4495119 86
Total395265263 307.7
Points332013 22
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Difference on the Road:
Pass Yards-89.6
Rush Yards-117.3
Total yards-206.8
Points-17.0
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Something is broken on the road. It's not just quality of opponents. USC is roughly equivalent to ASU this year performance wise. ASU just had 12 tackles for loss against stanford, but had zero against us. We may have scored only 28 against ASU, but we dominated in the second half and met our yardage average. Nebraska's defense is terrible, but we really struggled, especially in the run game (thank you viska).

My theory: something is broken with our OL scheme/calls on the road. They don't communicate well and seem intimidated. That, and Montez is very inconsistent once you get to him a few times. He gets frustrated. I think his only good road game has been that 2016 game at oregon when they had an absolutely terrible defense.You can see this offense unravel throughout games. It's very frustrating.
 
Darth Snow said:
I wanted to see the splits between road and home. The usual caveats with strength of schedule applying, they are drastic:

ColoradoCSUNHUCLAASUAverage
Passing 338311268328311.25
Rushing258180209166203.25
Total596491477494514.5
Points4545382839
AwayNebraskaUSCUW
Passing 351170144221.7
Rushing449511986
Total395265263307.7
Points33201322
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Difference on the Road:
Pass Yards-89.6
Rush Yards-117.3
Total yards-206.8
Points-17.0
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Something is broken on the road. It's not just quality of opponents. USC is roughly equivalent to ASU this year performance wise. ASU just had 12 tackles for loss against stanford, but had zero against us. We may have scored only 28 against ASU, but we dominated in the second half and met our yardage average. Nebraska's defense is terrible, but we really struggled, especially in the run game (thank you viska).

My theory: something is broken with our OL scheme/calls on the road. They don't communicate well and seem intimidated. That, and Montez is very inconsistent once you get to him a few times. He gets frustrated. I think his only good road game has been that 2016 game at oregon when they had an absolutely terrible defense.You can see this offense unravel throughout games. It's very frustrating.
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The offense was acceptable for a road game against a ranked opponent with UW this past weekend - for the first half. They totally shut us down in the second half. Less than 90 total yards in the 2nd half is what I believe I saw. That's horrible.

Also, Montez didn't do much against Oregon in the second half in 2016. He was killing them with slants in the 1H and they took that away in the second half.
 
Highlander said:
The offense was acceptable for a road game against a ranked opponent with UW this past weekend - for the first half. They totally shut us down in the second half. Less than 90 total yards in the 2nd half is what I believe I saw. That's horrible.

Also, Montez didn't do much against Oregon in the second half in 2016. He was killing them with slants in the 1H and they took that away in the second half.
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Good point on Montez. Plus, this team's offense has never traveled well under HCMM. That's through multiple QBs, two coordinators, (three if you count the addition of Adams). Even last year things tended to get worse as games went on (ASU, ugh). Something is very broken.
 
I'm not ready to say it's a road problem quite yet. There could definitely be a mentality issue when going up against a team like SC and UW, but with 2 out of 3 road games being against front sevens that are far more talented than our OL and the other against a fired up team we had zero film on, I need to wait and see how this offense performs against Arizona before completely buying in. Good analysis and stats, though.
 
Highlander said:
The offense was acceptable for a road game against a ranked opponent with UW this past weekend - for the first half. They totally shut us down in the second half. Less than 90 total yards in the 2nd half is what I believe I saw. That's horrible.

Also, Montez didn't do much against Oregon in the second half in 2016. He was killing them with slants in the 1H and they took that away in the second half.
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A rested and hungry Jaylen Johnson vs Tonz/Pursell didn’t help in the 2H either.
 
I would agree with your call on the difference being in the OL play.

Overall I would expect a big difference in stats between those teams on the home schedule and the road schedule simply because of much superior athletes on the USC and UW depth charts but that doesn't explain all of it.

With Nebraska, UCLA, and ASU we saw significant adjustments at halftime. A lot of that was with the OL. Against USC and UW it seemed that we got worse after half with them adjusting to us and us failing to respond.

Your mention of confidence and intimidation are on point as well. It is hard to do your assignment when you are getting physically beaten play after play in your one on one matchups which was happening a lot in the last two games.
 
The offense has been inexcusable the past two weeks, but that said look at Ohio State. College football on the road is difficult for nearly all teams. The real problem is the o-line. People complain that we aren't going deep. Ya part of it though is that there isn't enough time for the play to develop. What I don't understand offensively is that we don't do the slants or really anything in the middle of the field. We have been super successful with that.
 
Ugh. I was hoping you guys would come up with a reason I'm overreacting. So far, I'm seeing rather threadbare excuses.

At least our D shows up and fights all game. Our offense likes to fold. Watching Montez on that last drive at UW was hard.
 
I’m willing to chalk a lot of it up to being on the road against teams that are in our heads. We have had our chances to beat both of those teams in recent years and always manage to shoot ourselves in the foot, home or away. Still, the stats are what they are. Pretty awful.

Thankfully, we have three of the five remaining games at home.
 
Duff Man said:
You have to be able to lean heavily on the run game in hostile environments. College QBs, even the really good ones, can get rattled.
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And that 2016 team did in their road wins. 260 yards (5.0 ypc) against Oregon, 224 yards (4.6 ypc) against Stanford
 
J.R. Ewing said:
And that 2016 team did in their road wins. 260 yards (5.0 ypc) against Oregon, 224 yards (4.6 ypc) against Stanford
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even last year, it was our passing game that really suffered on the road (-90 ypg), while the rushing game was barely affected. (<-40ypg)
 
tin foil hat explanation: opposing teams are listening in to our OC communications when on the road.
 
Needs more sample size, as of right now I see it as a pre and post USC offense.

But our road record under Mac is horrific in general.
 
Jens1893 said:
Needs more sample size, as of right now I see it as a pre and post USC offense.

But our road record under Mac is horrific in general.
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True about the road record. But throw out the FCS teams and the lower G5 games and our home record under MM isn't a lot better.

Prior to this season under MacIntyre in conference we have won 1, 1, 0, 1, 8, and 2.
 
We need to run more zone read, that freaking little dive play isn't working when we have zero push up front. They must be scared to death about who is behind Steven. With Noyer, I can understand that. Are the other qb's actually worse than him or something?
 
J.R. Ewing said:
Why would they need to listen in when they know damn well that we're going to run McMillian up the gut on 1st.
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Dude. They showed us light boxes all game. Our OL got manhandled as the game went along. No scheme can overcome DL who consistently overpower 2-3 offensive linemen. This is especially true against backers like BBK who are tackling machines.
 
I think it's pretty clear after Saturday that we'll probably have the questions we have about this team answered in the Wazzu and Utah games. We don't have the horses to truly hang with the teams with elite talent on the road unless pretty much everything goes our way and we play completely mistake free football, and that includes the coaches,, but UU and Wazzu are probably about similar talented teams, give or take, and we get both at Folsom. The Arizona and Cal games should then also answer how and if our offense travels as those 4 games will be against teams who are about on our level talent wise.
 
TSchekler said:
Yeah, almost every offense in the country is going to have less production on the road compared to home. I view the offensive output of ~400 yards at Nebraska essentially on par with the home game production, which leaves two outliers against teams who have far better personnel than CU.
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44 yards rushing against that defense cannot be considered "on par" with home game production.
 
Darth Snow said:
44 yards rushing against that defense cannot be considered "on par" with home game production.
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That's fair, but it's the best passing production of the season to this point, home or away, so I don't think that game should be lumped in with the SC or UW games. As I stated earlier, I have to see them against Arizona to determine if it's truly a road thing for the offense, or just playing against better talent.
 
I posted it in the game thread but the whole team looked tight. And that goes for the coaches. We just put way too much pressure on ourselves.
 
Interesting post. I don’t know enough about how traveling affects teams (home is an even bigger adavantage in bb)...I bet sports psychologists have some good ideas...also agree w the sample size and type.
 
I think the sample size is small and the strength of schedule factors into it. I agree that we will find out more in the next 5 games. I don't believe our passing game keeps DCs up at night. Oregon State has the worst run defense in the conference, I would like to see us try to grind it out.
 
if our oline cannot get a “push” against the beav’s d...im waiving the white flag!
 
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