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You think? Feel like the NCAA has a history of hammering the little guy and letting the big programs skate a bit
You are assuming that the NCAA considers Arizona State a "big" program.
darth-horax
Well-Known Member
These are a joke. Putting sanctions on a team for visits that were pre-arranged before the pandemic....kind of nit-picky when other teams are doing much worse and get no kind of sanctions.
Just heard some details.
Air Force states that they self-reported and fully cooperated with the investigation.
Calhoun is said to have not been involved and not aware of the infractions as they were going on.
The assistant coaches who were involved have all left the program, one of those coaches went to Wisconsin where he recently resigned.
The penalties are really pretty minimal. The biggest impact is in the number of official paid visits. They talk about a reduction in roster size but that really isn't as big as it would be anywhere else. They have to designate a certain number of players as official roster players. These would be the scholarship players anywhere else. They have always had a significantly higher number of players who are considered the equivalent of walk-ons but of course at the academy no cadets pay tuition or living expenses and all get a paycheck.
The big difference comes in how many players can participate in off-season team activities.
Air Force states that they self-reported and fully cooperated with the investigation.
Calhoun is said to have not been involved and not aware of the infractions as they were going on.
The assistant coaches who were involved have all left the program, one of those coaches went to Wisconsin where he recently resigned.
The penalties are really pretty minimal. The biggest impact is in the number of official paid visits. They talk about a reduction in roster size but that really isn't as big as it would be anywhere else. They have to designate a certain number of players as official roster players. These would be the scholarship players anywhere else. They have always had a significantly higher number of players who are considered the equivalent of walk-ons but of course at the academy no cadets pay tuition or living expenses and all get a paycheck.
The big difference comes in how many players can participate in off-season team activities.
It actually will have very little impact on squad size. It will just mean that more players are considered walk-ons putting some limits on them in terms of off-season team activities.
The biggest impact may actually be in the reduction of official visits. The academy tends to bring in a lot of guys for visits who are on the edges of being signed by bigger programs. Sometimes the official visit changes their minds and they decide to go to the academy. More often the count on getting a number of those kids who had conditional offers that didn't come through.
the penalty wasn't scholarship limits. it is literally "squad size" - so yeah "walk ons" count against squad size.
so they can't have more "walk ons," and yes, that will hurt them more than most schools.
Maybe Calhoun would take the job in Boulder to bring us back up to "not terribly embarrassing"?
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
I still would take him here tomorrow. In terms of MWC coaches I'd want to hire......he's the list right now.
Maybe the new norm in today's NIL world. Limit the size of rosters as a consequence. And fewer waterboys...that will teach 'em!
darth-horax
Well-Known Member
Word is that AFA is still eligible for MWC post season and bowl games.
What is this post season and bowl game of which you speak?
State of CFB in Colorado is that two of the programs are in a dead heat for worst FBS team at all, and are both likely the worst P5 and G5 teams, respectively, and the other is getting sanctioned?
Sheesh.
Sheesh.
Penalties a lot less harsh than our free training table issue that our beloved Coach Barry reported
BuffBronco
Well-Known Member
Yeah, but did they give their walk-ons a discounted meal? That's the true death penalty stuff
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Such a bad punishment-I mean Air Force won 8 in row to start last year.
At the academies, every student has to play on an organized sports team - could be football, could be the fencing club, but they really don’t have cuts (but may not make the travel squad). But in the case of football, they also have JV and Sprint squads.