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What Are Your Expectations For CU Men's Hoops
- Thread starter Goose
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Expect, desire, vs desire within reason.
I want to be sweet 16 most years. That's probably not reasonable.
I do think "Iowa" is a reasonable desire. I think CU could very reasonably do that; I don't think they (admin, school, AD, etc) will ever do that.
I expect "Xavier." CU should do that, and if they don't, they are failing to meet expectations.
I want to be sweet 16 most years. That's probably not reasonable.
I do think "Iowa" is a reasonable desire. I think CU could very reasonably do that; I don't think they (admin, school, AD, etc) will ever do that.
I expect "Xavier." CU should do that, and if they don't, they are failing to meet expectations.
Progress/something to watch is what drives me to enjoy watching CU basketball, and what I would classify as a expectation. This would result in a NCAA team 25-50% of the time.
Things like seeing Dak's progression throughout the year and seeing the team get better throughout the year are great. Think about the '09-10 (?) year, we didn't make the tournament with Bz, but you saw the team go right up till the end of the season with something to play for, you saw new talent maturing, it was exciting.
I know most of this is an old man yelling at the sky, and not a Tad/CU issue, more of a college sports issue, but that is what I struggle with the most.
That said, winning is also fun
Things like seeing Dak's progression throughout the year and seeing the team get better throughout the year are great. Think about the '09-10 (?) year, we didn't make the tournament with Bz, but you saw the team go right up till the end of the season with something to play for, you saw new talent maturing, it was exciting.
I know most of this is an old man yelling at the sky, and not a Tad/CU issue, more of a college sports issue, but that is what I struggle with the most.
That said, winning is also fun
My expectation is that we are competing for, if not making the Dance, 2 years out of 4.
I will accept 1 out of 4, but complain about it.
I will accept 1 out of 4, but complain about it.
Same. I'd also like our rebuilding years to be like KJ's frosh year or McKinley's frosh year.
I'm the same as both of you.
But this question made me wonder: how does Iowa State do it? Ames is smaller than Boulder, Iowa is a smaller state than Colorado, they're pretty much at least as far from other major metros, and they have in-state P4 competition for recruits. Historically, up until the last 40 years or so, CU had been the more successful basketball program, and even when ISU had more success from ~1984-2010 or so, they were more like making the tournament 2 out of 4 years rather than some juggernaut.
And yet, in the last 15 years, each of 3 different HCs have won a conference championship, and they've made the S16 more times (4, with each coach making it at least once) than CU has since the ****ing Kennedy assassination (0 times).
Is ISU just that much more committed institutionally than CU? I know CU has very little institutional support, but it looks like over the last year spending on both programs was roughly the same (CU spent $7.9M, ISU spent $8.4M)
Yes.
There's a reason, after all, that Tad singled out their AD for props earlier this season.
I would love a bubble team most years with some being a no question they are in the dance. But a bubble team that if they got hot with the right mix could get to the second weekend. That means they are NIT other years and that is ok. This year is a disappointment and will happen from time to time. No excuses but is is what it is. We were never a consistent bubble team unless you go way back before most of the 35 year olds were born. Even then, it was up and down
I'm learning right now that I can't handle losing seasons. I won't trade them for a deeper occasional tourney run.
So, my expectations (what would keep me highly engaged as a fan and not thinking about a coaching change):
I. No losing seasons.
2. Dance at least 50% of years.
3. Give me at least 1 2nd weekend run or conference tourney title per decade.
So, my expectations (what would keep me highly engaged as a fan and not thinking about a coaching change):
I. No losing seasons.
2. Dance at least 50% of years.
3. Give me at least 1 2nd weekend run or conference tourney title per decade.
Ok- I’m a complete ignorant here, but what does ISU do differently? They spend about the same. I didn’t see what tad said.
Bubble team. That said, we're hell and gone from that level at this point. There is ZERO EXCUSE for Tad's lack of effort this offseason to build off his most successful season/team. NONE. At this point I think it's safe to say we probably win one more game this season. And based on Tad's attitude/effort re: NIL and the portal, I would expect at least 3 players to bolt in the offseason (Dak, Diop, Rancik, Smith). I also wouldn't expect any legit players to be knocking down the door to transfer to the Big12 doormat. Lastly, I'm pretty sure we missed on Anderson, Kossaras and Crawford. "Harry Caray" is a nice surprise, though!
Sidenote: Looking back, it seems that players like Hadley, Lampkin and O'Brien saw the writing on the wall - a terrible team and little money if they stuck around.
Sidenote: Looking back, it seems that players like Hadley, Lampkin and O'Brien saw the writing on the wall - a terrible team and little money if they stuck around.
They take care of their arena. They emphasize basketball for their fanbase, not just tolerate it. They support beyond just hiring some coaches and a DJ. My assumption is they don't stick the team on a commercial flight to Seattle or Orlando, as I've seen our team on in recent seasons.
It does help that their larger fanbase cares about the sport and that program beyond if they can write their name on a bracket in March or not. Nobody can change that.
Tad's comments from back at the end of non-conference play -- I've never heard him highlight another AD like that before. He was on a roll, though, and had been musing earlier on how we stack up in this new league:
ahoelsken
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They have history for sure-but they had a fairly ugly year under Steve Prohm not too long ago. Other thing with ISU is the way they play defense. I can't remember the last time I saw a team play as hard as they do on that side of the ball. That takes recruiting a different kind of kid in this era