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What former CU coach would you NOT trade KD for?
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darth-horax
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Embree and the first coach fired from the USFL, Chuck Fairbanks
Embree was terrible and completely over his head but at least he had some passion. He also recruited a number of decent players that contributed after he was gone.
Hawkins was successful at Boise and has had success at the FCS level. If he had a restart I wouldn't be shocked if he established a culture, recruited better, and had some success. (not saying he would set the world on fire but he might be decent.)
At this point the only coach worse than Dorrell is Fairbanks.
Hawkins was successful at Boise and has had success at the FCS level. If he had a restart I wouldn't be shocked if he established a culture, recruited better, and had some success. (not saying he would set the world on fire but he might be decent.)
At this point the only coach worse than Dorrell is Fairbanks.
Embree. Time outs, followed by delay of game, followed by back to back QB sneaks (legit pile dive sneaks on 2nd and 6).
Budget cut coach with budget cut results. Bohn’s final “old days are dead” hire that killed us for 4 years. Embree was a much better recruiter than Hawkins, but he was 100% out of his depth as HC. That was a BRUTAL stretch, since we were at 4 years of being completely lost as a program. Hawkins was DOA in 2009, we just couldn’t afford to fire him. AWFUL knowing we were destined for 2-10 in 2011 at the close of 2009.
I vividly recall the ESPN announcers laughing, on air, that CU retained Hawkins during the OSU game. Literally laughing as they said we were keeping him. So humiliating. Even then, Embree was worse.
Budget cut coach with budget cut results. Bohn’s final “old days are dead” hire that killed us for 4 years. Embree was a much better recruiter than Hawkins, but he was 100% out of his depth as HC. That was a BRUTAL stretch, since we were at 4 years of being completely lost as a program. Hawkins was DOA in 2009, we just couldn’t afford to fire him. AWFUL knowing we were destined for 2-10 in 2011 at the close of 2009.
I vividly recall the ESPN announcers laughing, on air, that CU retained Hawkins during the OSU game. Literally laughing as they said we were keeping him. So humiliating. Even then, Embree was worse.
We will long for the days of embree when we get to the 5th year of KD
Embree... thats about it.
Buffs lost to Drake TWICE under Fairbanks. It was that bad. Powder blues and all.
For those who are old enough to remember the Fairbanks years, it is also a trade you would not make. Awful years and I hate the fact that we are there again.
Bliff Cranch
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1980 versus OU. 82-42 loss. Post game interview an OU player said, on camera, going against CUs defense was like “running through paper” and then laughed about it.
Embree had a passion for the program, actually still does.
He simply wasn't ready to be put into the position he was with a program that had been allowed to fall apart, a culture that was a dumpster fire on the back of a train wreck, and zero administrative support.
Had he been give the budget to hire at least one coordinator with successful experience and preferably a coordinator who had head coaching experience who could guide him through.
Instead we had a HC (Embree) and two coordinators (EB and Brown) none of whom had even coordinator experience much less HC experience
Embree and his staff went about it in a bad way but they put effort into recruiting, they expected to get P5 level players and went after them, getting some.
Dorrell and staff are like those guys who are counting days until retirement
that's actually not the worst story from that game. at half time, fairbanks send a staffer over to switzer to ask him to please lay off a little in the 2nd half. the bootlegger was so pleased with this from his former boss (who he correctly thought got more credit for ou success when fairbanks was at ou than he should), that the sooners ran the ball up the middle the whole second half. CU still couldn't stop them.
i'd pretty much take any of the previous guys ahead of fairbanks.
Fairbanks. Also because he wanted powder blue jerseys.
Fairbanks gets a lot of blame for the powder blue, but that was actually a Regents decision. Some idiot on the BoR decided that they needed to add “Colorado Sky Blue” to the color scheme of the athletic teams. I don’t think Fairbanks could have cared less what the color of the uniforms were. That’s a problem in itself, probably.
Bliff Cranch
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And the cherry on top of the Fairbanks era was CU actually had to win or settle, I can’t recall, a tampering lawsuit filed by the New England Patriots to get him on board.
This. We technically had no head coach for 6 months, which meant our 1979 recruiting class was made up of guys who had nowhere else to go a month or two before the season started.