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What would Mark Helfrich say about CU?

lvbuff

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This guy has had success at every place he ever played or coached except CU. I am curious as to what he would say about CU (re: the burn down) after spending 3 years as OC. As a side note I am curious as to what he would say about Hawkins.
 
This is always a question of mine. Also want to see how he does at Oregon next year without Chip Kelly's players.
 
lvbuff said:
This guy has had success at every place he ever played or coached except CU. I am curious as to what he would say about CU (re: the burn down) after spending 3 years as OC. As a side note I am curious as to what he would say about Hawkins.
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Hawkins did not allow him to run the offense that he wanted to run.
 
Bufffan68 said:
God Hawkins was a joke. Why go the trouble of getting a great OC like MH and then tie his hands. Ugh.
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When you have the best QB son of a coach in all of college football the OC needs to change his system to fit the player. duh
 
GoBuffs08 said:
When you have the best QB son of a coach in all of college football the OC needs to change his system to fit the player. duh
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Are we talking about that amazing "Stats for Cody" offense that Hawk tried to run.
 
I don't have fond memories of MH. Blame it on Hawk, MH or whoever, but we sucked while he was here. He can take some of the blame as far as I'm concerned.
 
Duff Man said:
Open secret around the program.
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:nod:

And the more skeptical Hawk-haters among us believe that Dan blackballed Helf's offense because it suited Ballenger and Hansen better than it did Cody.
 
Buffnik said:
:nod:

And the more skeptical Hawk-haters among us believe that Dan blackballed Helf's offense because it suited Ballenger and Hansen better than it did Cody.
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helfrichs "o" def would have worked in hansons favor
 
Zimmer asked helfrich this question a couple seasons back right before we played Oregon. "Why didn't we see this offense at Colorado?" Helfrich smiled and gave a vague non-committal answer. Afterwards, Zimmer speculated on air that the difference was athletes recruited to a scheme.

Oregon has a long term plan, with a consistent scheme. They have all the support in the world. They get guys who are great athletes and who fit what they are trying to do.

We have had some catching up to do. We have a plan now. We have a staff that has a scheme they want to run and they seek players to fit it. We have improved some important support aspects and are upgrading facilities. What we aren't doing is getting enough raw material great athletes in.

Scheme can take you a ways but it can't take you all the way, especially in the p5 in the current era.
 
Liver said:
Zimmer asked helfrich this question a couple seasons back right before we played Oregon. "Why didn't we see this offense at Colorado?" Helfrich smiled and gave a vague non-committal answer. Afterwards, Zimmer speculated on air that the difference was athletes recruited to a scheme.

Oregon has a long term plan, with a consistent scheme. They have all the support in the world. They get guys who are great athletes and who fit what they are trying to do.

We have had some catching up to do. We have a plan now. We have a staff that has a scheme they want to run and they seek players to fit it. We have improved some important support aspects and are upgrading facilities. What we aren't doing is getting enough raw material great athletes in.

Scheme can take you a ways but it can't take you all the way, especially in the p5 in the current era.
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Completely agree.....need raw talent, and our current recruiting is nowhere close to making it happen.
 
Helfrich sucks and is in way over his head at Oregon. They need to quickly bring in a real coach if they want to keep their status as a top football school. The slippage is already evident.
 
Daaah said:
Helfrich sucks and is in way over his head at Oregon. They need to quickly bring in a real coach if they want to keep their status as a top football school. The slippage is already evident.
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I have had similar musings. Doesn't seem like the Ducks have the swagger and execution they have had in recent years. Disappointed to hear that MH wasn't able to run his offense in order to have Cody start. Still have nightmares of tipped passes at the line of scrimmage.

That said, I fully expect Oregon to look like world beaters when they play the Buffs. We really value helping other teams meet their goals and set records while doing it.


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My lasting memory of helfrich was the fly sweep on the one yard line at TAMU. That was enjoyable

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The first moment that I thought that Helfrich was in over his head in Oregon was against Stanford two years ago when they were suddenly down by three scores (roughly), they knew their national championship dreams were over, he had one star wide receiver taunting Stanford fans behind his bench, he had a second star player openly weeping on the sidelines without the courtesy towel over the head, and Mark was just standing there shell shocked on the sidelines facing the field with his arms crossed with a look of disbelief like he just wrecked his dad's favorite car.
 
Liver said:
Zimmer asked helfrich this question a couple seasons back right before we played Oregon. "Why didn't we see this offense at Colorado?" Helfrich smiled and gave a vague non-committal answer. Afterwards, Zimmer speculated on air that the difference was athletes recruited to a scheme.

Oregon has a long term plan, with a consistent scheme. They have all the support in the world. They get guys who are great athletes and who fit what they are trying to do.

We have had some catching up to do. We have a plan now. We have a staff that has a scheme they want to run and they seek players to fit it. We have improved some important support aspects and are upgrading facilities. What we aren't doing is getting enough raw material great athletes in.

Scheme can take you a ways but it can't take you all the way, especially in the p5 in the current era.
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It was in one of the 2008 pre-season presser/interviews MH said CU was going to have a zone read type O without having CH "run too much". You might recall DS getting the ball on a zone read give over and over, only to be creamed at the LOS because everybody knew prince Cody was no threat to run. It was at the KU game in 08 when I realized we were getting the shaft so CH could play and rack up stats....3 yards at a time. Of course the ultimate example was the KU game two years later.....
 
Daaah said:
Helfrich sucks and is in way over his head at Oregon. They need to quickly bring in a real coach if they want to keep their status as a top football school. The slippage is already evident.
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So was Chip in over his head? He had loads of talent. Where is his hardware? Lots of choke with Chip's teams. Where is his national championship? Big losses when big stakes involved.
 
Yellow Shirt said:
The first moment that I thought that Helfrich was in over his head in Oregon was against Stanford two years ago when they were suddenly down by three scores (roughly), they knew their national championship dreams were over, he had one star wide receiver taunting Stanford fans behind his bench, he had a second star player openly weeping on the sidelines without the courtesy towel over the head, and Mark was just standing there shell shocked on the sidelines facing the field with his arms crossed with a look of disbelief like he just wrecked his dad's favorite car.
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And how is this different from 2012 when Chip lost to Stanford with all of the national championship dreams on the line? You're only selecting evidence that supports your view.
 
Yellow Shirt said:
The first moment that I thought that Helfrich was in over his head in Oregon was against Stanford two years ago when they were suddenly down by three scores (roughly), they knew their national championship dreams were over, he had one star wide receiver taunting Stanford fans behind his bench, he had a second star player openly weeping on the sidelines without the courtesy towel over the head, and Mark was just standing there shell shocked on the sidelines facing the field with his arms crossed with a look of disbelief like he just wrecked his dad's favorite car.
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didnt see anything but the dux putting a beat down on stanford this year
 
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