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What's the word on Scott?

jwhite17

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We really need him for this road trip. Our offense is much better with a low post guy. I'm not sure how long it takes to heal from a concussion, but it has been almost two weeks, how much longer will it take?

If Scott is a no go, I don't see us beating either Cal/Stanford barring a great 3pt shooting performance from our team (similar to the Zona game back in January).

I'd rather him be ready to go for our home stand, but I really want to win one game this road trip too.

Will our medical staff be too cautious? That's my biggest fear.
 
jwhite17 said:
We really need him for this road trip. Our offense is much better with a low post guy. I'm not sure how long it takes to heal from a concussion, but it has been almost two weeks, how much longer will it take?

If Scott is a no go, I don't see us beating either Cal/Stanford barring a great 3pt shooting performance from our team (similar to the Zona game back in January).

I'd rather him be ready to go for our home stand, but I really want to win one game this road trip too.

Will our medical staff be too cautious? That's my biggest fear.
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There is no such thing as "too cautious" with a head injury.
 
SuperiorBuff said:
There is no such thing as "too cautious" with a head injury.
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This. Scott is a special player. I will take us losing a game or two this year if it leads to him being completely injury free and being able to play all four* years at CU.

* - he's allowed to play less than four years only if he becomes a lottery pick a la Burks.
 
jwhite17 said:
... I'm not sure how long it takes to heal from a concussion, but it has been almost two weeks, how much longer will it take?

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Anywhere from a couple of days to multiple months depending on the severity. From the way they were talking after the Utah game, he seemed to be coming back around. I would guess that he's out no more than two more games, likely less than that.
 
It sounded like the fog lifted by the night of the Utah game and he was feeling pretty much like himself (Thursday night). I guess we need to find out whether he's practicing this week. If he doesn't practice, I can't imagine that he would play. I'm eager to hear the reports from today.
 
Good stuff. Yes, I don't want to bring him back if it is severe too early just to win a game or two. Hopefully he will have a speedy recover and come back stronger than ever whether in NorCal or not.
 
mike yam of the pac12 net reporting that per boyle Scott is still day to day but WILL travel with the team...unsure if he will play vs furd
 
Concussions are tricky beasts to deal with. I got one a few (At least 2, but more than likely 3) while at school.

The fog for me went away after about 48 hours - but I think I sat out quite a few snowboarding weekends after that just to stay on the safe side. I didnt have a team doctor or any doctor for that matter, I just went until I couldnt stand not riding anymore.

We dont need to push him obviously, but not having him against cal (I'd rather beat them than furd) is going to hurt. That's going to be 2 full weeks without a game if he sits in palo alto, and plays in berkeley, and if he sits both of those, he'll have had a 19 day break before the ducks come to town.
 
wyobuff said:
Concussions are tricky beasts to deal with. I got one a few (At least 2, but more than likely 3) while at school.

The fog for me went away after about 48 hours - but I think I sat out quite a few snowboarding weekends after that just to stay on the safe side. I didnt have a team doctor or any doctor for that matter, I just went until I couldnt stand not riding anymore.

We dont need to push him obviously, but not having him against cal (I'd rather beat them than furd) is going to hurt. That's going to be 2 full weeks without a game if he sits in palo alto, and plays in berkeley, and if he sits both of those, he'll have had a 19 day break before the ducks come to town.
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That's long enough to get out of game shape.
 
jwhite17 said:
We really need him for this road trip. Our offense is much better with a low post guy. I'm not sure how long it takes to heal from a concussion, but it has been almost two weeks, how much longer will it take?

If Scott is a no go, I don't see us beating either Cal/Stanford barring a great 3pt shooting performance from our team (similar to the Zona game back in January).

I'd rather him be ready to go for our home stand, but I really want to win one game this road trip too.

Will our medical staff be too cautious? That's my biggest fear.
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I know a lot of people have got upset about this comment, but it sure seems that CU has had people out with concussions considerably longer than other schools.

Have we been getting hit harder (thinking of football), or just had bad luck, or is our medical staff being more cautious?

Now I have absoulutly zero problems with being on the cautious side when it comes to those things, but this seems like something that the NCAA should be stepping in with. When you have a SEC type school whos doctors are overly influenced to let the kid play before he really should, that seems to be a problem.

Just my opinion, but the doctors that clear a player to play should have no affiliation with the school, for the reasons of a level playing field, and Student-athlete’s saftey.

If I am understanding this wrong, someone correct me.
 
My nephew plays D1 lacrosse nearby and had his first diagnosed concussion in a 2012 fall practice. He seems pretty normal day to day, but he is still dealing with vision and sleep issues. I know we all played through these pre 2000 era, but concussions are really tricky! Nephew is a senior and he is still not cleared to play. Frankly as I said to him, much more concerned with long term health than short term risk. Hopefully Josh will feel better soon and be cleared medically.

Suffice it to say I am not a fan of "bun head" for ASU! I have this hope we get to drop these guys in an upcoming Pac-12 tourney match up. Get well soon Josh!
 
IMO, the medical staff and Boyle can not be too cautious with Josh and a concussion. It has been proven now that long term damage can occur from repeated concussions.

I'm with Goose about I'd rather lose a game than have Josh play too soon and not be healthy as a result of it.
 
buffgal said:
IMO, the medical staff and Boyle can not be too cautious with Josh and a concussion. It has been proven now that long term damage can occur from repeated concussions.

I'm with Goose about I'd rather lose a game than have Josh play too soon and not be healthy as a result of it.
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If that's the case, then CU should not allow Scott to ever play again at CU. That way, there is absolutely no risk WHATSOEVER that he has any repercussions from his concussion or CU has any bad publicity as a result.

CU is all about avoiding negatives - bad publicity, poor academics for its athletes, being accused of playing an injured player, etc. Based on past history, my guess is that even when is Scott is 100% and perfertly capable of playing, CU will not let him play based on an irrational fear that somehow he is at risk. I know the prior football staff was amazed that players were held-out AFTER they had passed all the necessary concussion tests.
 
rialto said:
If that's the case, then CU should not allow Scott to ever play again at CU. That way, there is absolutely no risk WHATSOEVER that he has any repercussions from his concussion or CU has any bad publicity as a result.

CU is all about avoiding negatives - bad publicity, poor academics for its athletes, being accused of playing an injured player, etc. Based on past history, my guess is that even when is Scott is 100% and perfertly capable of playing, CU will not let him play based on an irrational fear that somehow he is at risk. I know the prior football staff was amazed that players were held-out AFTER they had passed all the necessary concussion tests.
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:jerkoff:


We really need a smilie for that.
 
rialto said:
If that's the case, then CU should not allow Scott to ever play again at CU. That way, there is absolutely no risk WHATSOEVER that he has any repercussions from his concussion or CU has any bad publicity as a result.

CU is all about avoiding negatives - bad publicity, poor academics for its athletes, being accused of playing an injured player, etc. Based on past history, my guess is that even when is Scott is 100% and perfertly capable of playing, CU will not let him play based on an irrational fear that somehow he is at risk. I know the prior football staff was amazed that players were held-out AFTER they had passed all the necessary concussion tests.
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A wild chode appears!
 
I can't believe people are questioning the school for not playing him. This is serious stuff nowadays.

Since I'm a fan of the Avs, I'm intimately familiar with concussions. Landeskog was out for a month, Erik Johnson is still out, Peter Mueller missed nearly 2 years with a concussion, Joey Hishon still isn't right after over a year.

These things are different for everyone, and I can appreciate the school being appropriately cautious, NCAA tournament run or not.
 
dio said:
I can't believe people are questioning the school for not playing him. This is serious stuff nowadays.

Since I'm a fan of the Avs, I'm intimately familiar with concussions. Landeskog was out for a month, Erik Johnson is still out, Peter Mueller missed nearly 2 years with a concussion, Joey Hishon still isn't right after over a year.

These things are different for everyone, and I can appreciate the school being appropriately cautious, NCAA tournament run or not.
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I understand where you're coming from, but I was under the impression this was his first ever. Usually you can get away with that - the month/years long sits dont come until you've had 5+ bell ringers.
 
wyobuff said:
I understand where you're coming from, but I was under the impression this was his first ever. Usually you can get away with that - the month/years long sits dont come until you've had 5+ bell ringers.
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Yeah a first time concussion should have a relatively short recovery time. If it was a really bad concussion he would not have been at the game against Utah as the sound and light would have been too painful.
 
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