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Where will college football and athletics be in 20 years

DBT

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Just saw an ESPN report about a possible class action lawsuit against the NCAA on the behalf of players. The claim is that the NCAA makes billions by marketing players and the players get no benefit. I also saw Spurrier interviewed the other day arguing that men's football and basketball players should get stipends because their sports produce revenue. Then I hear things like powers like Alabama and other power house programs are making veiled threats against the NCAA that they may just take their football and leave, forming their own super organization.

And look at even high school football and basketball. They are being nationally televised. They have huge all star games. Recruits hold pressers to announce which college team they will be taking their talents to. It is getting kind of absurd.

So, given all this, where is college sports and football/basketball headed? Where will we it when I turn 80, :lol: Honestly, I believe I am living in the final great era of college athletics. It will still be around after my generation is gone. But the enjoyment that we have had will no longer be there. But the next generation will not know what they missed and will be satisfied, I suppose.
 
Back where it began, with Colorado on top. I think you had a typo, I think you meant to say 180 Mr. Herman T Zweibel.
 
This argument that the players don't get anything drives me crazy - if you don't like the scholarship only model, then don't play college football. They act like it's indentured servitude, but no one is forcing them to play.
 
This argument that the players don't get anything drives me crazy - if you don't like the scholarship only model, then don't play college football. They act like it's indentured servitude, but no one is forcing them to play.

I think the argument is that they do not get enough.
 
DBT, did you know we landed on the MOON?

And this may be your best old man post EVER.
 
I think the BCS conferences will break away from the NCAA and start paying their players.

If it wasn't for CU MBB, I would have completely abandoned college sports and followed just pro sports by now.
 
DBT, did you know we landed on the MOON?

And this may be your best old man post EVER.
Hey, I know this stuff is kind of old news, but I saw the three things all in about 2 days. I just think all the money out there is making college and even high school sports more and more corrupt. I also think that if the NCAA attempts to pay stipends, for one, and only to football and men's basketball players for the other, **** will hit the fan. I also know that there are those out there that have a vision of creating something like a 64 team super organization that would break from under the control of the NCAA. As much as I dislike the NCAA, I think this would be bad for the sports.
 
It's a worthwhile topic of conversation. Especially in the offseason. My personal opinion is that we are headed toward a 14-game regular season. The size of the conferences will dictate expanded scheduling. The NCAA, faced with declining relevance, will bend over and allow it. Eventually, the individual conferences will be more powerful than the NCAA itself, and we will have a system of 60+ schools that are governed by the conferences themselves, not the NCAA. The NCAA will continue to exist for smaller schools, but the big schools will kick them to the curb. CU will, by virtue of our affiliation with the PAC 12, be one of those larger schools. What that means for is, as fans, remains to be seen. My crystal ball gets a little fuzzy after that.


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I think the argument is that they do not get enough.

They can argue all they want but my view is if they don't like the system then don't play college football. I have a lot more sympathy for students who graduate and are saddled with massive student loan debt that will take them 30 years to payoff, than I do for the football player who isn't getting a piece of the action for his likeness being used in a popular video game.
 
They can argue all they want but my view is if they don't like the system then don't play college football. I have a lot more sympathy for students who graduate and are saddled with massive student loan debt that will take them 30 years to payoff, than I do for the football player who isn't getting a piece of the action for his likeness being used in a popular video game.

So they should just quit playing football? There's no viable alternative to college football for guys that hope to play professionally.
 
They can argue all they want but my view is if they don't like the system then don't play college football. I have a lot more sympathy for students who graduate and are saddled with massive student loan debt that will take them 30 years to payoff, than I do for the football player who isn't getting a piece of the action for his likeness being used in a popular video game.

A little off topic for this thread but I do not believe the majority of the students burdened with student loans are contributing millions of dollars to the school through their athletic accomplishments. Football is also not like baseball where you have the option of going pro straight out of HS.
 
They can argue all they want but my view is if they don't like the system then don't play college football. I have a lot more sympathy for students who graduate and are saddled with massive student loan debt that will take them 30 years to payoff, than I do for the football player who isn't getting a piece of the action for his likeness being used in a popular video game.

Do normal students generate millions of dollars for their universities?
 
So they should just quit playing football? There's no viable alternative to college football for guys that hope to play professionally.

???? Did I say we should get rid of college football? If they want to play professionally and see college football as a means to that end, that's great good luck to them. What I'm saying is if they think the system is so awful and they're being treated so unfairly by not being compensated to an extent they think is fair, then they are welcome to quit playing. Most won't because they either see some benefit down the road even in the current system, or they enjoy getting their education paid for, or they simply enjoy the experience and playing a game they love.
 
There is less and less difference between the two every day - we don't want CFB to be like either.

Ugh, if CFB becomes more like the NFL, count me out.


I will admit that I already have one foot out the door at this point. I'm really following the NBA and the NFL. I'm trying to latch on like that with hockey and baseball then the seperation from college sports will be more possible.
 
???? Did I say we should get rid of college football? If they want to play professionally and see college football as a means to that end, that's great good luck to them. What I'm saying is if they think the system is so awful and they're being treated so unfairly by not being compensated to an extent they think is fair, then they are welcome to quit playing. Most won't because they either see some benefit down the road even in the current system, or they enjoy getting their education paid for, or they simply enjoy the experience and playing a game they love.

Where did I accuse you of saying we should get rid of college football? Not sure where you got that impression. You're suggesting that college football players should accept the current system of getting scholarships, but not getting paid. Alternatively, according to you, they can quit. What I'm saying is that quitting isn't really an alternative is it?
 
A little off topic for this thread but I do not believe the majority of the students burdened with student loans are contributing millions of dollars to the school through their athletic accomplishments. Football is also not like baseball where you have the option of going pro straight out of HS.

So what? If their goal is to go pro, then playing college ball is still the best way to accomplish that goal.

Scholarship football players are getting a free education, plus CU swag, charter flights around the country, access to training facilities and tutors, etc. All that costs money and they receive it in most cases regardless if they are actually contributing to the money a school generates. How much money has someone like Stevie Joe Dorman generated for the school? Is CU getting their money's worth out of that scholarship?

So if you're going to argue that some of these players aren't being compensated for what they help contribute then you've got to stop compensating the dead weight with scholarships etc, don't you?
 
Where did I accuse you of saying we should get rid of college football? Not sure where you got that impression. You're suggesting that college football players should accept the current system of getting scholarships, but not getting paid. Alternatively, according to you, they can quit. What I'm saying is that quitting isn't really an alternative is it?

Right, that's what I'm saying. Accept the current system or don't, but if you really want to play pro ball then it probably is worth it to you to play college ball. Just like if I want to earn a college scholarship, it probably makes sense to play HS ball, or it might be smart to take a summer internship at Google if you want to work there after college.
 
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