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Which happens first?
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AlferdJasper
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They will be crushed in the Big 10.
FACT.
FACT.
RalphieSpeaks
Club Member
USC is down, Stanford is going to lose Harbaugh, ASU is overhyped, Arizona is not looking that good, only Hawk would get crushed by Cal and he is gone, UCLA still has Ricky......Oregon is one tough b*%ch though.
Big 10 has Ohio State and Wisconsin at the top but the rest of the conference, while not great, is very solid.
Truth be told I don't expect either to challenge for a few years yet....
Big 10 has Ohio State and Wisconsin at the top but the rest of the conference, while not great, is very solid.
Truth be told I don't expect either to challenge for a few years yet....
I think the Huskers are in some trouble. As evidenced by a survey of Corn responses to last night's debacle, too many of them are still denial that Pelini may not be the answer. They generally want to blame Watson; but the fact is that the team has a serious problem with behaving like a poorly coached team on both sides of the ball. Tons of penalties, turnovers, etc. Tantrums by the coach.
Tom Osborne is 73 years old and may not be as full engaged as he was when the Huskers last resembled anything like a contender. They were so brutalized by Callahan’s tenure that they want to believe that Bo Peep is going to work out – they don’t want to go through another upheaval this soon. (Can someone say Hawkins?)
That's a tough conference with few cupcakes; and Husker recruiting will have to compete with programs with every bit of history & facilities - like Michigan and MSU. Minnesota and Iowa are no picnic in the last decade, and Northwestern manages to upset someone every other year. And they have to play Penn State every year too. It's not the Big 12 North anymore; whereas the other 5 teams are decent only every 4-6 years.
They’ll still probably finish in the top half of the conference, just because they can still recruit. But I’m seeing storm clouds on the horizon for kNU for awhile. IMO Pelini is probably one of the most talented DCs in the country, but he may not be the guy to HC a team to a league championship, much less a NC.
Honestly, I like our chances a little better just because our coaching staff knows each other very well & are 100% dedicated to the program. We might be behind the Huskers in facilities and recruiting, but they've got some post-TO issues that aren't resolving themselves with high-profile hires....
Tom Osborne is 73 years old and may not be as full engaged as he was when the Huskers last resembled anything like a contender. They were so brutalized by Callahan’s tenure that they want to believe that Bo Peep is going to work out – they don’t want to go through another upheaval this soon. (Can someone say Hawkins?)
That's a tough conference with few cupcakes; and Husker recruiting will have to compete with programs with every bit of history & facilities - like Michigan and MSU. Minnesota and Iowa are no picnic in the last decade, and Northwestern manages to upset someone every other year. And they have to play Penn State every year too. It's not the Big 12 North anymore; whereas the other 5 teams are decent only every 4-6 years.
They’ll still probably finish in the top half of the conference, just because they can still recruit. But I’m seeing storm clouds on the horizon for kNU for awhile. IMO Pelini is probably one of the most talented DCs in the country, but he may not be the guy to HC a team to a league championship, much less a NC.
Honestly, I like our chances a little better just because our coaching staff knows each other very well & are 100% dedicated to the program. We might be behind the Huskers in facilities and recruiting, but they've got some post-TO issues that aren't resolving themselves with high-profile hires....
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Mick Ronson
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apparently, according to NU fans, the "tons of penalties" is either 1. a Texas driven Big XII ref conspiracy or 2. an "aggressive" style of play.
NU fans are awesome at blaming everyone else.
NU fans are awesome at blaming everyone else.
Unleash Hell
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Nebraska will not even be close to the best teams in the Big 10/11/12. Husker football will NEVER be like it was in the 90's.
Colorado has some work to do, but every school in the Pac-10 has had great success at some point the last 10 years. Colorado will rebound.
It will be a while before either team wins it's conference.
Colorado has some work to do, but every school in the Pac-10 has had great success at some point the last 10 years. Colorado will rebound.
It will be a while before either team wins it's conference.
AlferdJasper
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That really depends on wether Shawn Watson leaves which is a very distinct possibility. They got the easier half of the Big 10 to boot. They are a better team than we are. The Buffs have some work to do rebuilding (with a rookie HC and rookie OC) so there is a lot to see before I believe anything.
And since I went to CU; of course we will win it first followed by a repeat where we slaughter them in the Rose Bowl. :smile2:
And since I went to CU; of course we will win it first followed by a repeat where we slaughter them in the Rose Bowl. :smile2:
Deleted member 807
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I agree with those who state it will take a number of years before either CU or NU to win their respective conferences. championship.
Conventional wisdom puts the Huskers in front of the Buffs due to NU's better weight room, bigger stadium, more revenue, stronger college football-centric culture, and more existing depth on the roster.
But Nebraska is vulnerable. Lincoln in the styx, and doesn't necessarily appeal to the fertile Florida, California and Texas recruiting grounds. The Huskers can't fill it's rosters from within it's boarders. This one-time powerhouse has been eclipsed by powerhouses like Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, and Florida, who have more direct access to high school talent, and a full decade of more revenue and championship brand equity. The conference change will cause the Nubs to rethink their recruiting pipelines. Nebraska has even fallen behind the likes if Boise, Utah and TCU simply based upon BCS appearances in recent years.
The Buffs are starting out in an even deeper hole, thanks to the futility of the DH era and the institutional smackdown resulting from the psuedo-scandal at the turn of the millennium. Similarly CU can't fill a roster with top D1 talent inside state boundaries. And the facilities in Boulder are on the skimpy side of the arms race. One major bright spot is, however, a conference allignment that brings CU closer to it's alumni and it's preferred recruiting grounds. The same cannot be said in Lincoln. Plus Boulder is postcard beautiful, with a setting that money can't replicate in the Big 10.
I suspect that a different and more timely question would involve coaching staff turnover. Which HC will be around longer; Bo Pelini in Nebraska, or Jon Embree?
At this point, I'm not holding my breath that either Pelini or Embree will be holding a big crystal trophy anytime soon.
Conventional wisdom puts the Huskers in front of the Buffs due to NU's better weight room, bigger stadium, more revenue, stronger college football-centric culture, and more existing depth on the roster.
But Nebraska is vulnerable. Lincoln in the styx, and doesn't necessarily appeal to the fertile Florida, California and Texas recruiting grounds. The Huskers can't fill it's rosters from within it's boarders. This one-time powerhouse has been eclipsed by powerhouses like Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, and Florida, who have more direct access to high school talent, and a full decade of more revenue and championship brand equity. The conference change will cause the Nubs to rethink their recruiting pipelines. Nebraska has even fallen behind the likes if Boise, Utah and TCU simply based upon BCS appearances in recent years.
The Buffs are starting out in an even deeper hole, thanks to the futility of the DH era and the institutional smackdown resulting from the psuedo-scandal at the turn of the millennium. Similarly CU can't fill a roster with top D1 talent inside state boundaries. And the facilities in Boulder are on the skimpy side of the arms race. One major bright spot is, however, a conference allignment that brings CU closer to it's alumni and it's preferred recruiting grounds. The same cannot be said in Lincoln. Plus Boulder is postcard beautiful, with a setting that money can't replicate in the Big 10.
I suspect that a different and more timely question would involve coaching staff turnover. Which HC will be around longer; Bo Pelini in Nebraska, or Jon Embree?
At this point, I'm not holding my breath that either Pelini or Embree will be holding a big crystal trophy anytime soon.
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buffs04
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Anyone who thinks that CU will compete for a conference championship at any point in the next immediate future is seriously deluding themselves. You guys realize that in 2012 we are essentially starting over with regards to players and we will have had three consecutive weak to very-weak recruiting classes...? I am all for optimism but we have a very hard road ahead.
2012 isn't the concern for me, other than finding a QB. It's 2013 that scares the hell out of me if we don't recruit well to close this year's class.
(Our 2012 seniors are guys like Major, Givens, Kasa, Polk, Bonsu, etc.)