BeachBronco
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Knowing that we probably have the best coach in the conference and he isn't keen on going anywhere else...
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You never know, but I think the only school that he would immediately leave for is Kansas.
NBDefektor
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Ok, after last night's game, what exactly did he do? We couldn't rebound, score or defend te three. I love tad, but I don't think last night he did anything special. If Oregon makes even a few of their threes and we don't get a few 3 pointers from our freshmen and carlon, we lose by 12-15. Am I missing something?
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
Yes the short bus to school.
And how is that last part any different than the majority of basketball games? Or sport games in general? Tad was getting love from some CBS people after the win. He had a great gameplan and got them to stay tough when we got down early.
Yes- you're right, if they get some more points and we get fewer points, then they would have won
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Buffs didn't rebound well, scored only okay and in spurts, but they played hella good defense. Other than the first five minutes or so, they were in the face of every shooter. Sim, Joseph, Singler, were shut down.
Not so much last night, but for this season in general. Last night we couldn't rebound, score or defend the three. This is all true. However, we have a top 50 team in the nation when it comes to opponents offensive rebounding %, so we've done a phenomenal job on the boards this season -- especially considering we're basically only running with three big men on the roster. As for scoring, that's down from last year (big time. I appreciated last year's team at the time, but even more so now), but we're still in the top third of offensive efficiency in the nation (with an Off. Eff. rating of 102.5). Defending the three? We're in the top third of the nation at that as well as our opponents are only shooting 33.2% against us for the season.
And all of this with a roster that, to be brutally honest, has the talent level of a team picked to finish in the bottom half of one of the worst BCS conferences in America. The man took a team whose identity was to run & gun with little regard for defense (177th in Def Efficiency last year) and turned them in to a top 50 defensive team in the nation. We lost two guys who are playing in the NBA -- including a lottery pick -- and kept the train rolling. Plus, let's not disregard the fact that we're in a new conference so we're learning a LOT on the fly. Scouting is impressive today, but it still pays to have experience having gone in to your opponents arena and seen exactly how everything works in person. It pays to have gone up against these coaches for years so you know their tendencies. Tad's doing this all on the fly.
John Madden? Is that you?
Unleash Hell
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Colorado basketball will be a bigtime program in a couple years. We are very lucky!
so I have been thinking about this quite a bit and without a doubt we have over-achieved this year. A much weaker conference, good coaching, some freshman stepping up and Dre being superman from time to time were the recipe for our success this year. Now looking back at last year. We had two NBA players on the roster last year (and you can almost argue 3 if you count Dre). There are very very few teams with that kind of talent, yet we are closing in on last season win total and we have a shot of passing it. So did we underachieve last year?
I could be totally wrong because all I have is a gut feeling, but I honestly think Tad Boyle wants to be the Buff HC long term. When asked what he'd tell an in state recruit if the recruit said, "You left the state for Kansas, why shouldn't I?" Tad said he would tell the kid, "Don't make the same mistake I did." That says a lot. Not only that, he lived in Boulder prior to taking a shot at coaching. It says a lot about his values that he gave up a six figure income to pursue coaching at a starting salary of $25K. So, to me, money is not a big factor with him. Finally, he has said over and over that Colorado is his dream job. Never say never, I guess. But, to me, as long as CU continues to support the program like they've been doing, I just don't see him going anywhere anytime soon.
NBDefektor
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Rialto thanks for the relevant post. I agree tads been great for us this season, but I was only talking about last night. We didn't seem to make any adjustments for rebounding. It came down to our guards and small forwards simply not putting bodies on guys crashing te boards. And it happened ALL night. Nothing was changed. I understand we're a ****** rebounding team as it is, but that was something that should've been addressed early in the 1st half. You guys can rag on me all you want, but tad--in THIS game--didn't coach his best.
I respectfully disagree. Be thankful I'm in a magnanimous mood.
Yours is a pretty myopic remark, my man. Playing the "if" game is always a fail, IMO. I look at his coaching from a more "macro" perspective. We played poorly two games in a row. Tad had this team prepared for Oregon. He also got the team calmed down during half time and we came out much better in the second half. This team relys on a lot of young guys who tend to get out of control under pressure. Tad does a good job of getting them refocused.
It didn't help that Dufault got into foul trouble. We had to go small. How is that bad coaching?
Because we couldn't match their size but made up for it with tough perimeter defense and not allowing Sim or Joesph to get open looks. If Dufault doesn't get into foul trouble then the rebounds would have been more balanced but we just don't have the size this season.
Not only that, they were shooting threes and getting some really long bounces over our inside guys. It wasn't as if we were not in position. Sometimes, the bounces just go the wrong way.
Altman had made a big adjustment in the 2nd half the last time we played them by going with a smaller lineup and extending pressure defense to 30 feet. Also mixing in some press. We couldn't handle it and got blown out in the 2nd half.
Last night, Oregon came out with that exact same lineup and game plan. How did we respond? A high shooting percentage and a season best assist to turnover ratio. That's gameplan and coaching, NBD.
The adjustments we made on defense to stay on shooters opened the mid-range (Oregon didn't take advantage) and made the help defense close to the basket. We forced Oregon to either drive or shoot deep with face-up pressure. When you do that, it makes it harder to rebound the defensive glass. We should have done better, but this adjustment made it harder. Tough call, but also the right call to realize that giving up some 2nd shots was worth it if we could make them change their offense so much that Woods was their leading scorer.
On offense, there wasn't really much adjustment needed. Oregon couldn't handle us last time except during their big run when they forced a lot of turnovers with pressure. The mission was to take care of the ball, make the extra pass, and take good shots. For the most part we did that except for a couple stretches. Last 2 times we played, we turned the ball over 15 times each game. This time it was 7.
NBDefektor
Well-Known Member
Man u guys make me unproductive at work today. It's not hard to tell our guards to put a body I someone when the shot is in the air. As for "long rebounds," you box put correctly, it doesn't matter how long the rebound is. Offense I had no problems with, except for a few times where our o was just "jack up the three," but we did have good ball movement most of the time.
I also realize we played a small lineup with dufault in foul trouble and Tunks being, well, Tunks. I saw numerous plays where Andre would box out and go for a rebound and 4 other ducks would crash and all of our it's would simply be watching Andre. And giving up a 10-0 run with 2 minutes or so to go? That just doesn't scream "awesome coaching" to me.
I also realize we played a small lineup with dufault in foul trouble and Tunks being, well, Tunks. I saw numerous plays where Andre would box out and go for a rebound and 4 other ducks would crash and all of our it's would simply be watching Andre. And giving up a 10-0 run with 2 minutes or so to go? That just doesn't scream "awesome coaching" to me.
Stop.
I know you posted this while Nik was posting his reply, so you didn't see it...
but dude, you got MATTslapped!
NSFW
[video=youtube;q36uaSlf0ck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q36uaSlf0ck[/video]
Could very well be. However, we DID win the game, and at the end of the day, that is the most important statistic of all.
NBDefektor
Well-Known Member
You can say I got a lot of things, but heeeeeeell no, I did NOT get mattslapped.
NBDefektor
Well-Known Member
No arguments here! I was ecstatic, especially watching with my roommate who is a diehard duck fan. I can't wait for tonight, but I was only addressing the original point of this thread, which was to say, essentially, that tad is the man. Sure, he can be, but last night wasn't his "exhibit A."
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
Just nikked eh?
I can't stand it anymore. YOU ARE FULL OF ****! AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I feel better now. :lol:
Yes you did.
NBD, where did anyone say it was "awesome coaching" or that Tad "had his best day coaching?" No one said that. BeachBronco said "we have the best coach in the PAC 12." If you want to be a contrarian, then argue that he is not the best coach in the PAC. I think he is. But that will take time to prove.