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Florida recruiting

White_Rabbit

White_Rabbit

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How many commits should we get this year to consider our adventures there successful?

Could also answer with a percentage since we don't really know how many schollies we'll end up with.
 
Less concerned about numbers than I am about quality.

If we pull in 5-7 kids but they are the kind of kids we have been getting in recent years with no other P5 offers or maybe one other offer from another last place school then it will be a failure.

Give me 2 kids who have multiple quality offers from legitimate programs and I will be happy with our efforts there.

At some point we have to break the pattern and start signing kids that other coaches think can play.
 
MtnBuff said:
Less concerned about numbers than I am about quality.

If we pull in 5-7 kids but they are the kind of kids we have been getting in recent years with no other P5 offers or maybe one other offer from another last place school then it will be a failure.

Give me 2 kids who have multiple quality offers from legitimate programs and I will be happy with our efforts there.

At some point we have to break the pattern and start signing kids that other coaches think can play.
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2 kids this year would be great (15%) of class, but we've been absent in Florida for so long, I'd be content with just building relationships this year even if no recruits. Next year, 3-4 would be successful so long as they have other P5 offers.
 
Can't expect to win recruiting battles with FSU, UF, UGA, Miami, etc, but to me, winning a few recruiting battles against programs like USF, UCF, UNC, NC St, Wake, Duke, etc should be considered a successful first year for our recruiting efforts in Florida. Obviously not the marquee kids with 4+ stars next to their names, but all P5 caliber players that would start to generate in roads and develop relationships with the HS programs.
 
Going into IMG for Florida, it definitely helps to be a Nike school. That's our best opportunity, I think, to gain blue chip FL talent. IMG athletes aren't as locked into the state or regional schools. Besides IMG, I think it comes down to relationships and whether Leavitt & Tumpkin can leverage some of that to get some guys who might normally go to a USF by being able to offer P5.

I'm going to go high with my FL recruiting prediction for the 2016 class: 4 or 5 signees
 
Buffnik said:
Going into IMG for Florida, it definitely helps to be a Nike school. That's our best opportunity, I think, to gain blue chip FL talent. IMG athletes aren't as locked into the state or regional schools. Besides IMG, I think it comes down to relationships and whether Leavitt & Tumpkin can leverage some of that to get some guys who might normally go to a USF by being able to offer P5.

I'm going to go high with my FL recruiting prediction for the 2016 class: 4 or 5 signees
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but how many end up staying... we've had a recent history with long distance kids getting home sick and transferring out after a year or 2
 
The more I think about it, the more I like the strategy. In Texas, we're nobody. We're the team that bolted the B12 to play on the West Coast. In California, we're the team that keeps getting it's head bashed in. In Florida, we're just another team. No real history that is out there for everybody to see. We can set the narrative a lot better. We're not trying to get a lot of recruits against teams that we play on a regular basis. That should help us.
 
buff4bcs1985 said:
but how many end up staying... we've had a recent history with long distance kids getting home sick and transferring out after a year or 2
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Ease that by going with IMG kids, they're already over the homesickness. They come from all over to attend IMG in the first place.

Its like recruiting Miller from that New Hampshire prep school in B-ball. He's from KC, but ended up in NH.
 
I don't think we get one commit from FL, let alone a difference maker.

Believe it or not, people know about Colorado out here in the east. I was at the liquor store getting some booze one saturday morning a year or two ago when the clerk asked me how I was doing. I said, "I'm going to watch Colorado try and play football today. How do you think I feel?"

He laughed and the guy behind me laughed and said, "Oh, that is awful. You might want two of those."

It's not a secret out here. :huh:
 
buff4bcs1985 said:
but how many end up staying... we've had a recent history with long distance kids getting home sick and transferring out after a year or 2
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Not under MacIntyre. Everyone left under Hawkins and Embree, which leads me to believe there were very poor evals being done.
 
'Tini said:
Not under MacIntyre. Everyone left under Hawkins and Embree, which leads me to believe there were very poor evals being done.
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Mac also hasn't been recruiting people from that far away. It's a legit concern that I happen to share.
 
White_Rabbit said:
Mac also hasn't been recruiting people from that far away. It's a legit concern that I happen to share.
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Exception would be JUCOs who went to HS in the southeast. But those guys are obviously different since they've already spent a year or two in Cali or KS or wherever. Homesick isn't likely to be an issue.
 
Buffnik said:
Exception would be JUCOs who went to HS in the southeast. But those guys are obviously different since they've already spent a year or two in Cali or KS or wherever. Homesick isn't likely to be an issue.
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Indeed, but if memory serves most of those were just signed during this last cycle? Before that, we got Gehrke who is from AZ and Wiefuls who is from CA. The TE Center is from NY or something.. blanking on who else, I'm sure there's more.

It may be no big deal, but I remember looking at our TX recruits over the last 10 years or so and the attrition rate was staggering. Now, other factors could've and probably did come into play there considering how much we've sucked over that span and how many coaches we have went through, but this was part of my argument for why we should maybe just double down on the P12 footprint and leave TX behind.
 
4DemBuffs said:
I don't think we get one commit from FL, let alone a difference maker.

Believe it or not, people know about Colorado out here in the east. I was at the liquor store getting some booze one saturday morning a year or two ago when the clerk asked me how I was doing. I said, "I'm going to watch Colorado try and play football today. How do you think I feel?"

He laughed and the guy behind me laughed and said, "Oh, that is awful. You might want two of those."

It's not a secret out here. :huh:
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Thanks Mr. Negative Nancy! :sad2:
 
4DemBuffs said:
I don't think we get one commit from FL, let alone a difference maker.

Believe it or not, people know about Colorado out here in the east. I was at the liquor store getting some booze one saturday morning a year or two ago when the clerk asked me how I was doing. I said, "I'm going to watch Colorado try and play football today. How do you think I feel?"

He laughed and the guy behind me laughed and said, "Oh, that is awful. You might want two of those."

It's not a secret out here. :huh:
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I had a kid at the store try to sell me dish the other day, he offered all sorts of sports packages, yada, yada. He asked me what I watch, I said football. He said, "Oh, great we have NFL this and that, SEC, B1G...". "All I waste my time on is CU football," says I. Screws up his eyes, cocks his head, and I said, "Yeah, the University of Colorado - the Buffs." He gave me a look of pity and must have figured I was scum, because about the next thing out of his mouth was something to do with the offer hanging on my credit rating. Nice.

I don't have the energy to bitch about the coaches and players at CU - it's pointless, and I might become a casual fan if I thought about it enough. I don't care if they recruit Haiti, as long as it works.
 
Buffnik said:
Exactly. 99 times out of 100, you get slapped or laughed at. But that 1 other time is magic.
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Literally

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