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Garrett Riley - OC TCU

Lincoln Riley only had 2 years of P5 OCing before getting the Oklahoma job :unsure:
Garrett is starting to look like a star in the profession. That offense is damn good, and he's the playcaller. He's been in DFW for the last few years, so he's got connections there.

He's an automatic recruiting bounce because of the last name. Does he come here? I don't know. Do you make the call? **** yes you do.
 
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Not saying he won’t be a good HC, but coordinating a good offense (or defense) at bigger programs is not even in the top 5 of things I care about when hiring a HC, especially when the HC’s specialty is on the same side of the ball.
 
Not saying he won’t be a good HC, but coordinating a good offense (or defense) at bigger programs is not even in the top 5 of things I care about when hiring a HC, especially when the HC’s specialty is on the same side of the ball.
I think it is. A mediocre HC with a really good offensive system can win games
 
I think it is. A mediocre HC with a really good offensive system can win games
I'm in the camp of thinking we need an experienced HC who can give us a blueprint for a new program operating model.

But, fwiw, hiring for a dynamic offense is one strategy CU has not tried so there's some merit in going that direction. It has worked elsewhere.
 
I'm in the camp of thinking we need an experienced HC who can give us a blueprint for a new program operating model.

But, fwiw, hiring for a dynamic offense is one strategy CU has not tried so there's some merit in going that direction. It has worked elsewhere.
If you went with some unconventional offensive system like go-go with Marion, I suppose that could be an example, but you aren’t going to bring in a guy who has had success with air raid or spread offenses and think that system alone is getting this program back to relevancy
 
Not saying he won’t be a good HC, but coordinating a good offense (or defense) at bigger programs is not even in the top 5 of things I care about when hiring a HC, especially when the HC’s specialty is on the same side of the ball.
Doesn't the same line of thinking apply to Kasey Dunn?
 
Doesn't the same line of thinking apply to Kasey Dunn?
Same line of thinking applies to all coordinators, which is why there is so much more to it than just looking at Tennessee’s offense this season and falling in love with Golesh as a HC or Dunn.

Where I put more weight into the offensive success is a guy like Grimes who has proven it over years and years and is currently doing it under a defensive HC. The offense is entirely his.
 
Same line of thinking applies to all coordinators, which is why there is so much more to it than just looking at Tennessee’s offense this season and falling in love with Golesh as a HC or Dunn.

Where I put more weight into the offensive success is a guy like Grimes who has proven it over years and years and is currently doing it under a defensive HC. The offense is entirely his.
Fair. I like Grimes.
 
Generally I prefer going the coordinator from a big time program route, but the pool of available former HCs seems unusually good this year so if a Petersen, Herman, Bronco, and to a lesser extent Mullen, O’Brien, or Chryst were attainable I think we should be thanking our lucky stars. The coordinator pool seems thinner (maybe just my perception), and really only Grimes has me interested at the moment.
 
I always like the coordinator from big time school route, the MT route, but nobody is jumping out at me a ton in that realm this year. Still kinda early though

lots of former P5 HCs available, sure would feel good to get one of them

another safer realm is probably MWC --> P12, but the pickings don't feel great there this year. Brady Hoke and Jeff Tedford are names with P5 exp, but both are setup for meh seasons this year with broken QBs. Andy Avalos has Boise playing well, but who has failed at Boise? Tedford feels like he should be ancient, he's only 60, but he's an old af 60

Other G5 conferences don't seem to have much going on that's interesting this year. Willie Fritz is 7-1 at Tulane, hot off a 2-10 season last year.. 38-44 overall, that's a hard no

P12 coordinators are mostly meh, Dillingham is the most interesting, but he's young

Grimes and Dunn and a few others are definitely interesting from the coordinator realm, just not really big time schools, tbh how much does that really matter. Might be better to get someone that isn't accustomed to having 7 5*s running around on offense

FCS wise I do like Taylor and he has P5 coordinator experience, but ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh FCS is such a different realm from P5
 
I'd want a more experienced guy for the **** show he'd walk in to. Maybe this guy could handle it, that's the question though.
 
Garrett Riley isn’t in my “F*** yeah Top 5” tier, but he is definitely in my “F*** it lets ride *cracks beer*” tier

Hiring Garrett would show that our admin has balls and is willing to reach beyond hiring old boring guys and understands that we want youth and an offense

His resume is thin, but I’m fine with the gamble on candidates like Riley, Dillingham, Golesh, etc
 
Garrett Riley isn’t in my “F*** yeah Top 5” tier, but he is definitely in my “F*** it lets ride *cracks beer*” tier

Hiring Garrett would show that our admin has balls and is willing to reach beyond hiring old boring guys and understands that we want youth and an offense

His resume is thin, but I’m fine with the gamble on candidates like Riley, Dillingham, Golesh, etc
If they determine he has "it" when it comes to HC qualities, then sure, but it's a light resume no matter how you slice it and it's not even obvious that the offensive success at SMU and TCU is anything other than Sonny Dykes doing what Sonny Dykes has done everywhere he's been.
 
If they determine he has "it" when it comes to HC qualities, then sure, but it's a light resume no matter how you slice it and it's not even obvious that the offensive success at SMU and TCU is anything other than Sonny Dykes doing what Sonny Dykes has done everywhere he's been.
Sure, lots of question marks, definitely not in my top group. I am just dreading the thought of another DOA NFL assistant, so this looks pretty exciting in comparison.

It took all of 5 seconds after googling Karl, then supported by his press conference, for me to go full doomer
 
Lots of intriguing qualities about Riley. He's young. His last name is "Riley." His hire would draw lots of attention to the program. He has shown success. His brother would be a solid advisor.
 
Sure, lots of question marks, definitely not in my top group. I am just dreading the thought of another DOA NFL assistant, so this looks pretty exciting in comparison.

It took all of 5 seconds after googling Karl, then supported by his press conference, for me to go full doomer
No matter who the hire is, the fan base will almost universally agree it's better than Dorrell, but if that wasn't the standard right now, would Garrett Riley be an attractive name?
 
On the one hand, hiring a 33 year old to his first coaching gig after only a couple years as a P5 OC seems very risky, on the other hand that’s basically the same path Lincoln took having taken over the Sooners at the same age. Big difference (as Yak points out) is that Garrett is working under an offensive mixed HC in Dykes while Lincoln was running the Sooner offense for Stoops.

I think this is the wrong time for CU to take such a big risk on this guy even if he ends up killing it somewhere else. I think this hire needs to be safer.
 
I don't see why he wouldn't hold out for a better gig. He's coordinating one of the best offenses in the county on a team ranked #7. And it's not like he's riding the coattails of an elite QB. Duggan wasn't even the starter to begin the season. Let's not give Dykes too much credit. Sure he's a good coach, but he went 10-26 at Cal in conference, and this is by far his best team.
 
On the one hand, hiring a 33 year old to his first coaching gig after only a couple years as a P5 OC seems very risky, on the other hand that’s basically the same path Lincoln took having taken over the Sooners at the same age. Big difference (as Yak points out) is that Garrett is working under an offensive mixed HC in Dykes while Lincoln was running the Sooner offense for Stoops.

I think this is the wrong time for CU to take such a big risk on this guy even if he ends up killing it somewhere else. I think this hire needs to be safer.
Lincoln also had 6 years at TTU in various capacities, 4 years as OC at ECU and then 2 years as OC at OU before taking over a job he was basically groomed for, knew the leadership of the school, expectations, had an entire staff in place, etc.
 
I don't see why he wouldn't hold out for a better gig. He's coordinating one of the best offenses in the county on a team ranked #7. And it's not like he's riding the coattails of an elite QB. Duggan wasn't even the starter to begin the season. Let's not give Dykes too much credit. Sure he's a good coach, but he went 10-26 at Cal in conference, and this is by far his best team.
Sure, but Dykes' offenses were always good. He could never figure out defense at Cal
 
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