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Lauren Fleshman and Kara Goucher have each written new books:



WaPo review here:


(Nike, by the way, comes across as the real villain in both this story and in Fleshman’s for what the authors describe as its dehumanizing treatment of female athletes — docking their pay during pregnancy, among other things.) Given the stakes, it’s unsurprising that Goucher’s book reads like legal testimony as much as a memoir. Written with former New York Times sports reporter Mary Pilon, “The Longest Run” unfolds very carefully. Specific dates are cited; specific incidents are recounted at length.
 
It'd be pretty cool if we could rebuild the way we bring girls up in sports in a way that is more in line with how girls mature into women instead of basing it on how boys mature into men.

It literally would have to start with grade school girls' sports though.
 
It'd be pretty cool if we could rebuild the way we bring girls up in sports in a way that is more in line with how girls mature into women instead of basing it on how boys mature into men.

It literally would have to start with grade school girls' sports though.
One of our great failures as a society is trying to create equality by judging women by the standards of men.

No secret that men and women are different. Different strengths and weaknesses, different rates and forms of maturing, much much more that is different.

We have to figure out that equal doesn't mean the same.

This by the way extends way past sport. In the business world often women are judged by the standards of men rather than by their own accomplishments and contributions which to be fair can often be more important and valuable than if they topped out the "male" standard.
 
One of our great failures as a society is trying to create equality by judging women by the standards of men.

No secret that men and women are different. Different strengths and weaknesses, different rates and forms of maturing, much much more that is different.

We have to figure out that equal doesn't mean the same.

This by the way extends way past sport. In the business world often women are judged by the standards of men rather than by their own accomplishments and contributions which to be fair can often be more important and valuable than if they topped out the "male" standard.
Yes... and No.

"It's different for girls" and all the variations that build off that are often used to justify misogyny.
 
Yes... and No.

"It's different for girls" and all the variations that build off that are often used to justify misogyny.
Those who want to be misogynistic will always find a way to be so.

That doesn't make it right to judge or treat women as men or vice versa.

We need to find the way to value each fully.
 
Lauren Fleshman and Kara Goucher have each written new books:



WaPo review here:

K. Goucher had a lot to overcome at CU and as a pro. Glad to see that she’s processing it.
 
Without digging in, I'm guessing that "docking their pay for pregnancy" is more accurately described as "a clause in the sponsorship agreement which reduces compensation if the athlete chooses not to compete for a reason other than injury".

If I'm correct, I don't see that as egregious behavior on Nike's part and suspect it's a common clause in athletic sponsor contacts.

The issue of women choosing childbirth over careers affects all industries, not just sports. It's also a much bigger discussion.

If I'm incorrect and someone has dug in here, TIA for the bullet points of enlightenment.
 
Without digging in, I'm guessing that "docking their pay for pregnancy" is more accurately described as "a clause in the sponsorship agreement which reduces compensation if the athlete chooses not to compete for a reason other than injury".

If I'm correct, I don't see that as egregious behavior on Nike's part and suspect it's a common clause in athletic sponsor contacts.

The issue of women choosing childbirth over careers affects all industries, not just sports. It's also a much bigger discussion.

If I'm incorrect and someone has dug in here, TIA for the bullet points of enlightenment.
It's common and everyone does it /= it's not egregious.
 
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