That guy didn't tell you because they were afraid you would think they were idiotic to make the trip for their $2 BJ.
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That guy didn't tell you because they were afraid you would think they were idiotic to make the trip for their $2 BJ.
Stadium sponsorship coming soon from Cod Liver Penicillin by RFK Pharma.
Was a huge name at one point.
Taylor's still employed. Surprising job security for someone who has gone 3-9 in each of his 2 seasons.
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Reports: Stanford coach bullied athletics staff
Troy Taylor remains on the job. In a statement released by Stanford, he said he had received counseling on "how I interact with others."
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BuffLuke80
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Well, thankfully, I never got it. Plenty of skankulas in Lubbock man.
GRM
I'm a ****ty troll
Taylor's still employed. Surprising job security for someone who has gone 3-9 in each of his 2 seasons.
Reports: Stanford coach bullied athletics staff
Troy Taylor remains on the job. In a statement released by Stanford, he said he had received counseling on "how I interact with others."
I was going to post this--it is a bombshell, much worse than Northwestern. I doubt that this goes away anytime soon. I am equally surprised that Taylor was not fired and/or did not leave much earlier on his own accord. There is no job security now. The Stanford alums and donors will not like this news. Those allegations and findings are just brutal. Plus, Stanford does not want to be reporting NCAA infractions. Just awful when the 2nd outside investigator report states: "Under Coach Taylor's leadership, the football program has disregarded or simply not followed NCAA rules that they have been repeatedly and consistently educated on by the Compliance Office...." Stanford football is in a tough position if they immediately part with Taylor, but doubtful that they have a choice.
One note, it sounds like this relationship started going sideways less than 6 months into Taylor's tenure before he even coached his 1st game. Taylor was hired December 2022, Stanford hired their 1st outside investigator in Spring 2023? An early mutual parting should have been considered before, during or after Year 1. For both Stanford and Taylor these were extensive investigations. Obviously, one factor for Stanford is the transfer portal and teams being gutted when they lose a HC. However, under these types of circumstances if they did it after Year 1, it is better than having to do it going into year 3. Hopefully, they have David Shaw (he works for the Lions, had success and tailed off, but ran a clean program) on speed-dial or Andrew Luck has another stop-gap in mind; it could be himself!
For Taylor, he should have considered leaving on his own accord, such that he could perhaps quietly move on to decent job as a coordinator, AC or move on to the NFL in some capacity. That is gone now. Since these were extensive outside investigations, presumably Taylor had to obtain his own lawyer, who should have discussed this option. Perhaps, Taylor would have avoided investigation #2 if he just departed early. Could be too much aggression, ego, and fight there. This will not help him his future career endeavors.
Both Stanford and Taylor should have known this would have become public at some point, so they share this blame.
At this juncture, Stanford needs to fully re-evaluate the long-term direction of the entire athletic department. I doubt football would go away, but playing sports in the ACC does not help Stanford, since they sponsor so many sports; and their past performance has been great--all the NADCA Director's Cup wins and runner-ups. Football travel and revenue is one thing, but basketball suffers as well--neither team is in the dance (Stanford WBB has been a force). Then there is travel for all the other non-revenue producing team sports, except those that the ACC does not sponsor. Stanford may need to "bite the bullet" and consider moving to the PAC or MWC. The conference alignment sounds crazy from an academic standpoint, however Stanford's brand will not really suffer--they have all the great endowments. In athletics, in the PAC/MWC many of their teams could dominate.
For Stanford football, now there is the cost of: the investigations; any potential lawsuits brought by those discriminated against (in addition to staffers, compliance staffers, maybe players as well--); a minimal Taylor buy-out (otherwise more litigation) and handling the ACs, new coaching staff, NIL for the flipped roster, and public relations expenses to get things back on track. The AD finances will be upside down for the near term. Plus, they only get a 30% football media share for 8 more years. Under these circumstances, I'm not sure the ACC would drive an extremely hard bargain if they wanted to go back west and/or Stanford could not just pay it.
Also, Stanford has been fighting a lawsuit over the women's soccer player who committed suicide. That case has roped in David Shaw and Stanford's President too... This article was 2 days ago: https://padailypost.com/2025/03/18/...er-teammates-to-divulge-personal-information/
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My how the mighty have fallen. It wasn’t that long ago that Stanford was playing in Rose Bowls and had Heisman candidates seemingly every year. They were the poster child for the academic/athletic partnership. They were what everybody wanted to be. It really didn’t take very long for that entire house of cards to collapse. They weren’t helped at all by the USC/UCLA deception.
Transfer rules were the first thing that hurt them. They could only lose because transferring into Stanford is not an easy process. Also, their players are the exact kind of people who would take advantage of transferring out once they earn a degree in order to get a Master's completely paid for.
December becoming the main signing period hurt them. Stanford's policy had been to not approve a recruit until they could review the academic record through the first semester of his senior year. They often had to cut some verbals loose and find new players between the start of January and the February signing day, which was bad enough to have to overcome. Now they can't even think about recruiting someone who is borderline on admissions.
Last, NIL has been a problem. Extremely rich boosters, but not a motivated group for buying a wide receiver. On the other side of that, it's a lot easier to hold off a smart kid who is focused on academics when you're Texas going against Stanford today than it was. The pitch about a Stanford degree's value doesn't win as much when the counter is that you can offer an extra $500k to get started in life.
Not anymore.Taylor's still employed. Surprising job security for someone who has gone 3-9 in each of his 2 seasons.
Reports: Stanford coach bullied athletics staff
Troy Taylor remains on the job. In a statement released by Stanford, he said he had received counseling on "how I interact with others."
Prime to Stanford
Plus he is familiar with the East Coast, where Stanford will be playing most of their games.
I agree with Taylor being fired.
But I’m not sure how many good coaches are going to want to come to Stanford where Andrew Luck seems to have more power than the HC in addition to the AD. Essentially two direct bosses rather than one.
Just think about how much power GM Prime would have over the head coach that replaces him at CU.
Chuck Pagano
Six candidates that SI suggests: Pagano, Clawson, Tavita Pritchard, Troy Walters, Greg Roman, Pep Hamilton
Six Options for Stanford Football's Next Head Coach After Firing Troy Taylor
General manager Andrew Luck will make a spring hire to lead the Cardinal football program forward.
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Andrew Luck as GM is essentially the AD for football. The AD is the NFL equivalent of President, board of trustees is the Owner. Clear chain of command. AD realized they could not effectively manage the football program and the rest of the large athletic department, so brought someone in with the knowledge and passion to right the ship.
HighlandsBuff
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Stanford has 36 varsity sports, compared to CU's 16... I don't think it's that outrageous to have another level of supervision, though it is different.
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Wow @Buffnik that did not take very long--Taylor canned. I like Dave Clawson. Pagano and Kingsberry were mentioned in articles (not sure if either guys wants to enter a **it show). I'm not sure if either parties would consider David Shaw, part 2--not great results has last 2 seasons, but he would stabilize. Maybe another NFL name picks up stream. I would throw out Mike Mac II, however post CU he has been a disaster, plus I think he had the DC Tumpkin debacle. Truly, they need a program stabilizer for a few years they need to move extremely fast for this hire, and it is not a buyer's market. These days for Stanford the bar has to be low, it is about gradually improving from 3-8 and just getting to bowl eligible within 3-4 years will be a tough task, as this roster turns over again. They might mitigate that some if ACs stay, however I think most of those guys came with/hired by Taylor.
I do like the young coaches including Walters mentioned, but I think they need a guy with more experience to just stabilize things. Stanford cannot take anymore bad press.
Not sure what direction Andrew Luck is headed, one article said it was an outside chance he could be forced into interim HC. As a GM/AD, my opinion is that he is inexperienced, and now he is overwhelmed. I think Luck will stay and learn, but ability to lure a top-notch HC may be limited. Depends, on how much money can be raised. Also, Luck himself may want to re-evaluate his role, or decide what he wants it to be. It appears forcing Taylor out came from above. I'm surprised Stanford's Board did not call an emergency meeting and Luck did not completely clam up--this is inexperience. Never a dull moment in CFB...
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Reich to Stanford but only as interim for 1 year. This seems like a weird hire plus it's only for 1 year
Frank Reich is going to be the interim HC at Stanford for one season only. I get that the timing sucks but Stanford is already at major recruiting disadvantages and now there’s zero stability on the staff. Feels like a dumpster fire program right now
Yeah that’s going to set them back a couple years. I doubt they will have any portal success this go around and then getting some prep guys this for cycle is going to be really hard when they won’t know who their next coach will be
BuffLuke80
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Maybe they watched the comeback film and got a hard on?Reich to Stanford but only as interim for 1 year. This seems like a weird hire plus it's only for 1 year
No. That was just you.Maybe they watched the comeback film and got a hard on?
Day & Dabo
To be clear, that's on an AAV basis. In 2025 he's tied for 8th nationally (with Bill Belichick) behind Deboer, Riley, Sark, Lanning, Dabo, Day and Smart.
BuffLuke80
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Doubtful.
Haha, Luke can't get it up anymore!