He got benched for Blaine freaking Gabbert before he took a knee
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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)
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Agree. However, I dont recall Colin coming in to the NFL with baggage. Yes he was PROVEN top half of QBs. SS is a long way from proven top half and already has an excessive amount of baggage.
I am pro SS, and I believe he can be an absolute stud. in the NFL I am a fan, playing devils advocate, trying to wrap my head around what happened.,
Da fuq is this baggage? As has been stated before, the NFL has been more than accommodating for rapists, abusers, drug addicts, and murderers.
Just don't be "uppity", amirite?
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Im talking everything they are using against him. (Right or wrong) As I said before, I dont get it, Just repeating what I am hearing on all the national shows and so called experts.
It seams former players all have had SS back, while anyone who never put on pads have been more vocal about SS antics. (not a surprise)
I dont remember Colin having any issue before making it in the NFL I could be wrong, I was not not a fan of him or the 49ers, so didnt follow them
PinballBuff
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Except that the Broncos offered him a deal and easy chance to be the starter that he turned down
THE NFL Draft isn't always about the best player. Sometimes it's about the least risk. The 1st round is a huge commitment that can cost a team anywhere from $20-40 Million. If a team sees red flags, they are going to pass on a player and take a safer option. The deeper you get into the draft the lower the commitment and bigger risk teams are willing to take. As much potential as Shedeur has, he also didn't make it easy on teams to pick him. He could have been a model candidate over the past 2 months and he would have gone in the 1st round. Teams thought he didn't take the process seriously and would be more of a distraction than anything else. Would he take training camp seriously? Would he split the locker room? Would he become a bigger story than the team? It's easy to get neagtive if the player tanks an interview and can't show respect during interviews?
How would you handle a canddite if hiring at work? Would you bring him on becasue he can save the company? If your company doesn't need to be saved, you most definitely would tell him to take a hike.
I love what Shedeur did for CU and I hope he is wildly successful in the NFL, partly to shut up all the a-holes, but he cost himself a lot of money by not being professional and taking things seriously.
How would you handle a canddite if hiring at work? Would you bring him on becasue he can save the company? If your company doesn't need to be saved, you most definitely would tell him to take a hike.
I love what Shedeur did for CU and I hope he is wildly successful in the NFL, partly to shut up all the a-holes, but he cost himself a lot of money by not being professional and taking things seriously.
This 100%
Get out of here with that sh*t.
That is false. The Broncos considered trading for Kaepernick in 2016 (after the retirement of Peyton Manning and defection of Brock Osweiler to Houston), before Kaepernick ever protested during the anthem, but he declined to reduce his guaranteed salary to facilitate a trade. Then, once he became a free agent in 2017, the Broncos showed no interest, arguing basically that he had his chance to sign with the team in 2016. (Meanwhile, Osweiler was offered a contract in 2017, a year after spurning the Broncos for the Texans.)
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...isiting-the-colin-kaepernick-false-narratives
PinballBuff
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So he was offered a job pre-protest, at what the Broncos considered his market value, he turned it down, and it's shocking he got no offers post-protest while still wanting a ton of money?
So he was offered a job pre-protest, at what the Broncos considered his market value, he turned it down, and it's shocking he got no offers post-protest while still wanting a ton of money?
I have a contract for $100mm. But you think I'm worth $15mm. My current employer is obligated to pay me $100mm. You think I should go to work for you instead? LOL. Okay.
Jose Ramirez hit the Shedeur after scoring the walk-off winning run in Cleveland tonight.
The Italians in my neighborhood used to make that gesture, while saying "Fongul"
Now this is the type of black man the sunglass selfie crowd can get behind!
Mick Ronson
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i worked for Italians as a chef/sous chef/all of it for many years in professional kitchens...fongul you bring the left hand to the part of your right arm bend where they take blood or shoot heroin. in my experience. maybe it's been attenuated for the younger generations.
fongul is a double move. the single arm **** you has what we call a peace sign turned backwards. like in the UK.
i didn't understand that "doing Shedeur" pic either. but i'm 57. and i'm not an NFL guy. and it's really one of things i can live with not knowing.
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BlackNGold
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This whole narrative on Shedeur has been weird, pathic and maybe tragically funny.
I think it is obvious that NFL teams evaluate talent in great detail and keep their findings private. The people who are "draft experts" on social media are pulling things out of their ASS.
But all you really need is one team with a need to fall in love with a QB to draft him high - Johnny Manziel, Anthony Richardson, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, Trey Lance, Zack Wilson, Paxton Lynch - are all players that had some red flags coming out of college but were taken high.
I believe a few things happened that impacted Shedeur's draft status. The strength of the 2024 QB draft class(6 first round QBs) and 3 QBs taken top 5 in the 2023 draft - removed 9 teams from looking for a 1st round QB. Add to that all the teams that already have a starting QB. In the end you only had a handful of teams looking for a starting QB - Browns, Saints, Giants, Jets, Steelers, and Titans are that list for me. None of those 6 teams obviously fell in love with Shedeur.
I also agree with the narrative that QBs are evaluated totally different than other positions and once a QB is out of the starting QB draft area (probably the 1st 50 picks) then they are looked at as a backup/developmental guy. I can buy that some teams did not see Shedeur fitting that role very well.
I thought Shedeur would go in the top 5, but that was mostly based on the hype leading up to the draft. But that is all in the past. I believe Shedeur has the potential to be a really good NFL QB. To me his comparable is CJ Stroud, a good pocket passer. I hope he gets the opportunity in Cleveland to show his talent.
I think it is obvious that NFL teams evaluate talent in great detail and keep their findings private. The people who are "draft experts" on social media are pulling things out of their ASS.
But all you really need is one team with a need to fall in love with a QB to draft him high - Johnny Manziel, Anthony Richardson, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, Trey Lance, Zack Wilson, Paxton Lynch - are all players that had some red flags coming out of college but were taken high.
I believe a few things happened that impacted Shedeur's draft status. The strength of the 2024 QB draft class(6 first round QBs) and 3 QBs taken top 5 in the 2023 draft - removed 9 teams from looking for a 1st round QB. Add to that all the teams that already have a starting QB. In the end you only had a handful of teams looking for a starting QB - Browns, Saints, Giants, Jets, Steelers, and Titans are that list for me. None of those 6 teams obviously fell in love with Shedeur.
I also agree with the narrative that QBs are evaluated totally different than other positions and once a QB is out of the starting QB draft area (probably the 1st 50 picks) then they are looked at as a backup/developmental guy. I can buy that some teams did not see Shedeur fitting that role very well.
I thought Shedeur would go in the top 5, but that was mostly based on the hype leading up to the draft. But that is all in the past. I believe Shedeur has the potential to be a really good NFL QB. To me his comparable is CJ Stroud, a good pocket passer. I hope he gets the opportunity in Cleveland to show his talent.
Not sure about right hand, left hand, but you did 'cross' one arm under the otheri worked for Italians as a chef/sous chef/all of it for many years in professional kitchens...fongul you bring the left hand to the part of your right arm bend where they take blood or shoot heroin. in my experience. maybe it's been attenuated for the younger generations.
fongul is a double move. the single arm **** you has what we call a peace sign turned backwards. like in the UK.
i didn't understand that "doing Shedeur" pic either. but i'm 57. and i'm not an NFL guy. and it's really one of things i can live with not knowing.
Mick Ronson
Well-Known Member
based on what i know for the italian talent for obscenity and insult jazz, i'm sure it doesn't discriminate of lefties. lol.
Ornette Coleman people of telling others to F off.
Enjoy 10 minutes of Shedeur:
Mick Ronson
Well-Known Member
i still don't get why Nike can't get gold right on the pants to match the badassness of the helmet. Chardonnay piss. Notre Dame has kinda done it and they are all that is evil and we are all that is good.....UCLA in these SS highlights, even they figured it out.
I don't know, in one of the great mysteries of life almost everyone inexplicably fell in love with ND during last years CFP