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Meet the new Dan and Cody Hawkins .

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Slick

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Jerry Neuheisel

6 foot (allegedly)QB. UCLA leads for his sig. Why not?

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http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Jerry-Neuheisel-96862

So much pain. I'm ready to share.
 
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Difference is that the Weasel doesn't care about anything but winning. He doesn't care about the rules, he doesn't care about who he works for, and you can be pretty sure that he isn't going to let some little thing like his own kid get in the way of his winning.

Hawk went the other way, he is so blinded by his loyalty to his son that he can't see how it is hurting his chance to win.

As much as I dislike the Weasel, this is not going to be an issue (except for maybe with his kid and his wife) because Slick would sell his grandmother for a win.
 
Actually I could see Rick having his son dress up like him and Rick slipping on the old powder blue uni.
 
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These things so rarely turn out well, why do father/son combos not learn from others' experiences?
 
I really hate making fun of the kid but I've never seen a blonde with a uni-brow before.
 
Yep, there is precedence with Mullen's own Clint Brewster. He verballed to Illinois, because his father went there. Then dad got the head job at Minnesota, and he ditched Illinois on signing day to sign with Minny. Unfortunately for Clint, dad already had a 5-star QB signed in the same class. So Clint spiraled out of the Minny program and ended up at a D-II school. Sad.
 
How did Rick's kid avoid getting cast as a villain in the Harry Potter movie series?
 
Free ride?
It can't be the money that encourages dads to do this -- they are paid enough to afford a college education and --- I do believe -- university employees get some kind of discount if their kids attend the school where they work.

Giving a scholly to your kid takes one away from another kid who can contribute. Therefore, makes no sense. EVEN if your kid was the second coming of Mark Sanchez or John Elway, why not let him walk on and use the extra scholarship on someone else who can contribute?
 
AlferdJasper said:
Free ride?
It can't be the money that encourages dads to do this -- they are paid enough to afford a college education and --- I do believe -- university employees get some kind of discount if their kids attend the school where they work.

Giving a scholly to your kid takes one away from another kid who can contribute. Therefore, makes no sense. EVEN if your kid was the second coming of Mark Sanchez or John Elway, why not let him walk on and use the extra scholarship on someone else who can contribute?
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Neuheisel won 33 games from 1995-98. Say what you want about him - he's a winninig football coach. He left behind a ton of talent when he went to Washington. GB won the Big 12 title with his recruits. If his son can't contribute he will never see the playing field. This ain't
the Hawkins show. Slick can recruit with the best, he isn't going to waste a scholarship - even on his own son. I'd say the kid could probably sign with another Pac 10 team if he wanted. Best of luck to him.
 
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77buff said:
Neuheisel won 33 games from 1995-98. Say what you want about him - he's a winninig football coach. He left behind a ton of talent when he went to Washington. GB won the Big 12 title with his recruits. If his son can't contribute he will never see the playing field. This ain't
the Hawkins show. Slick can recruit with the best, he isn't going to waste a scholarship - even on his own son. I'd say the kid could probably sign with another Pac 10 team if he wanted. Best of luck to him.
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Point of Order. Rick did promise Katie Hnida a spot on the team as a publicity stunt. Admittedly, no scholarship. But let's not pretend the Weasel wouldn't hesitate to give his son a scholarship for no other reason than the extra local and national press they'll get on the father-son angle.
 
Maybe it is wrong, but there would be something poetic about Tricky Ricky's kid signing on with ucla while he was the coach. I'l be chuckling if it happens. One thing I don't get,most big BCS CFB coaches are making $1M+, wouldn't it get a lot of goodwill if you let your kid walk on and give the scholly to another player that would help your team?
 
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One thing I don't get,most big BCS CFB coaches are making $1M+, wouldn't it get a lot of goodwill if you let your kid walk on and give the scholly to another player that would help your team?
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And a lot of universities back east offer free education for children of university employees. I don't think the NCAA allows what you're suggesting, though. I asked about it myself and there's something in the rules about them counting against your scholarship numbers if they have scholarship offers elsewhere or something.
 
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And a lot of universities back east offer free education for children of university employees. I don't think the NCAA allows what you're suggesting, though. I asked about it myself and there's something in the rules about them counting against your scholarship numbers if they have scholarship offers elsewhere or something.
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I'm saying if you are making $1M+, you can afford your kid's tuition and let him walk on. You effectively buy another scholly, assuming your kid actually merits a scholly. Plus you don't look like you are milking your employer by using your postion to get your kid's tuition paid for as additional compensation to you.
 
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I'm saying if you are making $1M+, you can afford your kid's tuition and let him walk on. You effectively buy another scholly, assuming your kid actually merits a scholly. Plus you don't look like you are milking your employer by using your postion to get your kid's tuition paid for as additional compensation to you.
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I know what you're saying. I said the same thing on another board (Rivals, I think). And apparently it's not allowed. You do that, the NCAA counts it as a scholarship anyway.
 
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I know what you're saying. I said the same thing on another board (Rivals, I think). And apparently it's not allowed. You do that, the NCAA counts it as a scholarship anyway.
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Thank you. I had been trying to figure out how Skippy could get UCLA in NCAA hot water over recruiting his own kid. Now I know.... :cool:
 
leftybuff said:
Maybe it is wrong, but there would be something poetic about Tricky Ricky's kid signing on with ucla while he was the coach. I'l be chuckling if it happens. One thing I don't get,most big BCS CFB coaches are making $1M+, wouldn't it get a lot of goodwill if you let your kid walk on and give the scholly to another player that would help your team?
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That's what I was saying, more or less. Why give the kid a scholly?

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And a lot of universities back east offer free education for children of university employees. I don't think the NCAA allows what you're suggesting, though. I asked about it myself and there's something in the rules about them counting against your scholarship numbers if they have scholarship offers elsewhere or something.
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So let his kid play, but why take up a scholly --- when a kid who might need it to get an education would have the opportunity otherwise?

This is going to bug me, I'll have to look up the NCAA ruling on it. Just doesn't seem right.
 
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Point of Order. Rick did promise Katie Hnida a spot on the team as a publicity stunt. Admittedly, no scholarship. But let's not pretend the Weasel wouldn't hesitate to give his son a scholarship for no other reason than the extra local and national press they'll get on the father-son angle.
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That had to be the biggest publicity stunt pulled off by the CU football program. GB should have cut her the very next year. He shares the blame too, he didn't have to keep her around. That father-son angle can come back to haunt a coach. I live between KSU, KU, and MU fans. As soon as they find out I'm a CU fan, their first question is "why does Hawkins always play his son, he's no good"?
 
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Yep, there is precedence with Mullen's own Clint Brewster. He verballed to Illinois, because his father went there. Then dad got the head job at Minnesota, and he ditched Illinois on signing day to sign with Minny. Unfortunately for Clint, dad already had a 5-star QB signed in the same class. So Clint spiraled out of the Minny program and ended up at a D-II school. Sad.
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One more of the "Great Mullen Disappearing Acts".
 
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