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'11 CA CB Stefan McClure (Signed to Cal)
- Thread starter LongHaulBuff
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That's interesting. My dream scenario right now is that Willingham is actually an unannounced CU commit and he switched to a Michigan trip this week for the sole purpose of recruiting McClure to Boulder. :smile2:
From what I've been reading it sounds plausible.
Don't toy with me, gruenler. :lol:
lawdogg
Club Member
I suppose the nightmare scenario then would be that Kellen Jones successfully recruited Willingham to Michigan and now Willingham is paying it forward by trying to lock up McClure. Like your dream scenario better though.
lawdogg
Club Member
By the way, just took a look at Michigan's recruiting class for this year, and by my count they already have at least four DBs committed. I don't see that as being the place to be if a kid is looking for early playing time. If UCLA make a splash hire, like Randy Shannon on the defensive coaching staff, they will probably get him. However, we might be able to make one last push for him.
Johnny Juzang
Well-Known Member
Post says Willingham is getting texts from Harrington to be a Buff.
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RK
UBL
Daigh's gotta be all over him too about keeping the best two parts of the brick squad together.
buffman60
New Member
Agreed.
buffsyko
Club Member
With Lucien joining him...
Really doubt it, but I have been wrong before.
buffsyko
Club Member
Sure hope so, someone posted days ago that maybe mclure and him would wind up at ucla. Getting him would be a great get.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
I thought this was a no no? (Coach pulling recruits.)
Knew McClure was not coming here for a while, but he is still a big loss. He would have played early here IMO.
I think it was different in this case because Ambrose did not just jump ship on his own and also McClure has not been seriously considering CU for a while now.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
McClure didn't commit to CU, so Ambrose didn't "pull" him. The kid was still open and has made his choice, good luck to him (except when they play the Buffs).
So no verbal is fair game? I'm just trying to get a feel for the etiquette.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Sounds 'bout right. I know there are staffs/coaches that will continue to pursue a young player even after they have committed to another school. Snydley Whiplash as kjsu is a prime example, and I remember Belotti doing it too while at oregano U.
I think (jmho) it gets a little more dicey when a coach leaves school A for school B, and tries to convince the kids he recruited (to A) to follow him (to B). I believe that's where the "pull" controversy lies.
Anyone out there willing to chime in? I certainly don't claim to be an expert at this -- just giving info I've heard over the years.
Pretty much every staff in the country continues to recruits kids that are committed to other schools. With verbals coming earlier and earlier, it would be foolish not to keep recruiting "committed" kids all the way to signing day.
Your second scenario is where it gets dicey.
somebody
Well-Known Member
I don't know, if a kid has given a verbal but the guy he's developed a relationship with moves on, I wouldn't blame him for moving on with him.
If he gets fired, maybe. If the guy leaves for greener pastures, that's where it sucks. If a team has locked down a commitment from a player, they generally stop recruiting other options at that position. If a guy moves to a new program late in the process and takes players with him, the former team has not only lost a coach, but they are seriously behind the gun in terms of replacing those players in the class. All of the comparable guys will have moved on to other schools and you're left scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a replacement.
No. Ambrose helped wrap him up for Cal, but we were out of the running a while ago, with or without Ambrose.
Generally the assistant will allow the kid to contact him in that situation, not the other way around. No doubt it gets murky.