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'13 WA QB Sefo Liufau (Signed to Colorado)
- Thread starter Duff Man
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Picking QBs (even at NFL level) is a crapshoot, but I am NOT hearing that. This time 2 years ago, we were building Dorman up as the next Heisman candidate from the Detmer tree.
Uhh no we weren't. 95% of the posts in Dorman's thread were like WTF... and rightfully so
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
Well-Known Member
This is totally hijacking this thread, but ..... http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php/34145-11-TX-QB-Stevie-Joe-Dorman-(Signed-to-Colorado)
Nik posted this in that thread, my bold added. Kind of shows how much value some of the "expert" opinions have.
That said we had some similar comments about Dorman in his threat as we see in Sefo's. At the same time it is easy to see that there is a big difference in athleticism. Sefo has basically lifted a team with less overall talent than their opponents to being a very successful team due to his leadership and his ability to make plays.
That said we had some similar comments about Dorman in his threat as we see in Sefo's. At the same time it is easy to see that there is a big difference in athleticism. Sefo has basically lifted a team with less overall talent than their opponents to being a very successful team due to his leadership and his ability to make plays.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
Well-Known Member
Those players are in alphabetical order -- they aren't ranked. But it is interesting to see that Dorman was considered amongst the 20 best QB's in Texas that year.
Just reposted Niks stuff.
Interesting to see Dorman on the same list as Manziel. Do you think that Texas would trade Manziel for Ash straight up? Might be interesting to revisit that list in another couple years to see how things turned out. Dexter Foreman is listed as a RS Fr at Minnesota, hasn't played yet.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
He's on the same list because they both played HS quarterback in Texas the same year, other than that I wouldn't make too many comparisons.
This happens every year, we get all excited about the incoming HS QB because he's had a few articles mention him and he's won a bunch of games in HS. As a fan base we have visions of the new guy coming in and being the next Andrew Luck or Johnny football, because until proven otherwise, you never know.
Not to say Sefo won't be a fantastic QB for us one day, but over the past several years the players I've been most excited about seeing in action have included: Connor Wood, Nick Hirschman, Matt Ballenger, Cody Hawkins, Bernard Jackson, Brian White, Tyler Hansen, and the great Clark Evans. All if them have either been underwhelming or didn't stick around.
I just hope Dillon or Sefo can be the man, otherwise I'll be looking forward to the next HS kid that can help save this program.
WeCU13
Member
I agree with Lt.Col.FrankSlade; why are we hijacking this thread with Dorman's name in it. If you compare the two, it's not even close. Sefo loss his rivals 4* when he committed to Colorado; even with his best individual performance, team record, and school accomplishments this year: 12-2 record; 2518 passing yds; .69%. completion; 24 TD pass/5 Int; 291 Rushing Yds; 8TD Run;
Dorman: Rivals; 3* 5.5; Scout; 3* 78; ESPN 2*;
..Liufau: Rivals; 3* 5.7; Scout; 3* 53; ESPN 4*; 247; 4*
If you want to compare Sefo to a QB; compare him to a QB from his class; like the #1 QB in the country. below is what the Sammamish-Issaquah-Patch said about the two QBs before the State Championship.
Two future Division 1-A college quarterbacks will battle it out Saturday night in the Tacoma Dome for the 4A state football title. Skyline's Max Browne (commitment to USC) and Bellarmine Prep's Sefo Liufau (commitment to Colorado). Side by side, Browne is the better quarterback with .734 completion compared to Liufau's .681. Browne throws more, with 256 passes to Liufau's 160. However, Liufau has rushed for 270 yards on 26 carries this season--Browne is negative yardage (-11) on 63 carries.
In the State Finals; Sefo (376yds) 3 TD pass and Max (384yds) 4TD pass; both QB broke the old state finals passing record (372yds); Sefo holds the state finals record for completion (33); and Max holds the passing yds and TDs.
Dorman: Rivals; 3* 5.5; Scout; 3* 78; ESPN 2*;
..Liufau: Rivals; 3* 5.7; Scout; 3* 53; ESPN 4*; 247; 4*
If you want to compare Sefo to a QB; compare him to a QB from his class; like the #1 QB in the country. below is what the Sammamish-Issaquah-Patch said about the two QBs before the State Championship.
Two future Division 1-A college quarterbacks will battle it out Saturday night in the Tacoma Dome for the 4A state football title. Skyline's Max Browne (commitment to USC) and Bellarmine Prep's Sefo Liufau (commitment to Colorado). Side by side, Browne is the better quarterback with .734 completion compared to Liufau's .681. Browne throws more, with 256 passes to Liufau's 160. However, Liufau has rushed for 270 yards on 26 carries this season--Browne is negative yardage (-11) on 63 carries.
In the State Finals; Sefo (376yds) 3 TD pass and Max (384yds) 4TD pass; both QB broke the old state finals passing record (372yds); Sefo holds the state finals record for completion (33); and Max holds the passing yds and TDs.
WeCU slapped!
My biggest interest in Sefo is because of things that don't show up in the stat lines. He has the physical attributes that are neccessary for BCS level football but beyond that it seems like his leadership has carried his team well past where the talent surrounding him would have otherwise gone.
To me the guy is a winner.
WeCU13
Member
Class of 2013; the most important recruit in each PAC 12 school!!
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...st-important-recruit-in-the-2013-class/page/2
Go Buffs!!!
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...st-important-recruit-in-the-2013-class/page/2
Go Buffs!!!
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You can add Craig Ochs to that list for me
Darrell Scott comes to mind.
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We agree, he was a terrible quarterback.
LOL! I'm not an idiot all the time...just when I'm awake :lol:
WeCU13
Member
Western-100 The top recruits.
Top high school recruits from Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming, Western Canada, as selected by The News Tribune after polling coaches and various media outlets.
Top high school recruits from Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming, Western Canada, as selected by The News Tribune after polling coaches and various media outlets.
WeCU13
Member
Bellarmine Prep won their second league title in the row, 10 wins in a row; 11-1 since Sefo's returned; 12-7 overall. The Lions will be the No. 1 seed out of the Narrows League when the West Central District playoffs begin next week.
Tacoma News Tribune
“The last time we did it here at Bellarmine was 45 years ago,” Lions coach Bernie Salazar said of repeating a basketball title. “That tells you how difficult it is. There are a lot of good teams in Tacoma and in the Narrows League.”
Tacoma News Tribune
“The last time we did it here at Bellarmine was 45 years ago,” Lions coach Bernie Salazar said of repeating a basketball title. “That tells you how difficult it is. There are a lot of good teams in Tacoma and in the Narrows League.”
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Wow.
WeCU13
Member
Yep, 2 sport star; (4A) 1st Team All-State last year in Basketball.
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boydbuff
Club Member
That's a real double-double!
Well if he doesn't work out at QB, he could be a successful TE. But don't get me wrong-I too hope he is the next dual threat success.
chitownbuff
Club Member
Agreed, but with the brains of Ryan Fitzpatrick and the loyalty of Alex Smith.
