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Based on nothing other than recruiting rankings, they're still significantly ahead of us. Checking the 247 rankings for the last four years; Stanford: 17, 24, 19, 10.
No. Because if I judged by recruiting rankings I'd think that CU was a terrible team and that Wisconsin has been a bottom feeder in the B1G for the past couple decades.
Granted. But if you're trying to gauge nothing more than the talent level of a particular team, recruiting rankings are pretty much the only method available. Either class rankings or average stars. Understanding that there are other variables at play that will impact the on-field product, it's not a stretch, or even an exaggeration to point out that Stanford has significantly more talent than we have. We are closer to UW than Stanford.
Or how many guys you're putting in the NFL. Outgoing talent tells more about your recruiting than incoming talent. For instance, you'd evaluate CU's basketball talent last season more on White being a 1st round draft pick than him being a D2 recruit out of high school. CU is evaluating and developing talent as such an outlier to the star rankings that it has made that an almost worthless comparison standard imo. Do we judge Oliver, Lindsay and Montez by what Rivals thought about of them coming out of HS to determine their talent level?
Judging it based on NFL draftees says nothing about the team on the field right now. I will agree that there are lots of variables and outliers, but the people at 247 (and Rivals, etc) are paid talent evaluators. They do this for a living. I'm not arguing that it's impossible for a team like CU to beat a team like Stanford. I'm just saying that as of right now, there remains a significant talent gap. How that talent performs on the field is a totally different discussion.
I acknowledged there is a gap. It's narrow now, though. I've always believed there is a lot about CU that builds team cohesion better than most places (they're on an island together in a new place without the distractions of all the friends from the neighborhood), so that's part of why CU will often have better results than its talent would suggest. I also believe that MacIntyre is an excellent coach with great systems and organization. I believe that's an advantage. So if the Buffs aren't in just about every game like started in 2015, winning most and blowing a few out... then, yeah, I'll say that either/both the talent and/or coaching wasn't as good as I thought.
I don't believe it is a 30-40 place advantage. There's a Top 10 (give or take, depending on year) with recruiting ranks that are in an elite echelon. Programs recruiting there are going to have a talent advantage on us unless we get into that same echelon. But after that level, better evaluations and development can put the Buffs right there with the best of the rest. I think that's where we are getting and have a Top 30ish roster (give or take).
If HCMM can climb to a .500 or better Pac-12 career record within 4 seasons, the program's in good shape. Within 3 and we're really humming. And if he does it in 2, we should build a statue.
I tend to agree. I would be tempted to move QB up to "Very" if we're talking about this cycle and last. I think Lytle and Stenstrom both have very good potential to be solid or better P5 QBs.
Yeah, the only reason I didn't have QB in the Very category was due to Montez and Noyer being less heralded as recruits and Stenstrom being an unknown right now. Obviously, Montez is more than likely going to prove the rankings wrong this year and turn into a solid player, and Noyer seems to be developing nicely as well. If Stenstrom has a big year and ends up being what we all hope, QB could easily be the most well recruited position on the team, next to WR.
Short pork bellies!
Well, except for big time money (to keep a top notch staff, but ya keep winning and that can be partially solved.
