BlackNGold
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PRich has to show well at the combine or at the pro timing day. If his speed is what I think it will be I think he will be okay. I still think second or third round.
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2014 NFL Draft Early Entrants
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PRich has to show well at the combine or at the pro timing day. If his speed is what I think it will be I think he will be okay. I still think second or third round.
Bigbuffs
Member
How has Ball not made an impact? Since the New England game he has averaged 6.6 yards a carry and has been the Broncos leading rusher. He also out rushed Reggie Bush since the New England game.
550 Yards is a nice contribution but nothing spectacular. He has had some good games and a couple of big runs but hasn't shown himself yet to be a game breaker type. He has shown that he is a dependable producer who can keep you on schedule and bang wearing out a defense.
Moreno is still the starter but he is already a fifth year guy which is past the average life of a RB and has a history of injury. I think the point of the post I responded to was that there are a lot of productive backs in the NFL that carried a price tag lower than a 2nd round pick. I like Ball but it is looking more like Hillman was a waste of a 3rd rounder. Holic was commenting that he didn't want to see Denver spend another choice on a RB. My point is that with Ball we have a good candidate for a future starter type to carry the majority of the workload on first and second down. Because of a guy like Ball we could afford to draft a guy like Thomas in the mid-rounds of the draft who would give us a situational guy with explosiveness and a home run threat who also could give us a threat similar to Holliday on returns without the bad judgement and some versatility to be a reciever coming out of the backfield or the slot.
Here's one person's projections on the now 17 underclassmen receivers entering the draft
So saying that at least 8 of the 32 teams take a WR in the first round. This assuming that no senior WRs are taken that high.
You figure a lot of these players will drop some. I don't know much about the seniors, but the experts were saying that WR was the weakest position in this draft before the juniors declared.
There are 32 first round picks.
I have seen speculation (predictions) of up to 6 QBs going in the first round. In normal years there are usually at least 5-6 OTs taken and an equal number of DTs.
If you assume that based on this you have 16 players taken at those positions and another 8 WRs that leaves 8 picks for DBs, DEs, RBs, TEs, Interior OL. It has become a pass happy league but I just don't see that balance happening.
Bigbuffs
Member
That makes sense. I just thought it was unfair to say he hadn't made an impact this year.
No way 8 WRs go in the first.
So that's what all that crying was about.
This is who Steele has leaving so far.
Kuandijo is going to be a bust.
Junction
Club Member
I think a certain 2014 Heisman trophy lock may have miscalculated in deciding to be one of those 14 RB....
bigbang2
blindslighted
Do you mean experts like Mel Kiper draft boards or do you mean the 32 NFL teams drafts boards?
I don't buy the Bortles hype. He has a good arm, but didn't really run a NFL offense in College. Reminds me a lot of Blaine Gabbert. Hopefully he has more success than Gabbert. Not a top 10 QB. The only top 10 QB in the draft in my opinion is Bridgewater(sp).
I don't know what he is going to lose. If he were a dedicated student working on a degree and a related future he would miss out on another year of free school.
From a football standpoint another year isn't going to make him more appealing to the pros. He would be running behind a completely rebuilt offensive line with a likely drop off in production.
He had a great year in the MWC this year but the same issues that will hold him back this year from being a high draft choice are going to be there next year. He isn't going to get markedly faster or quicker (unless he gets on the tini' plan, or is it the BB plan.) There are a lot of RBs in the draft this year but there are also going to be a lot next year and the following year.
If he thinks he has a good chance this year he might as well go for it. It isn't likely to get better by him staying. He also had some injury issues this year that were minor enough to overlook. If he comes back and gets hurt again then he becomes one of those cronically injuried guys.
FLounder
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I strongly disagree, I believe JFF is a top-10 pick. Especially for a small market team like Jax. Granted Jax doesn't actually have that bad of attendance(more than the steelers) the perception around the country is that nobody goes to the games. With Johnny the tarps will come off and. Seats will be filled.
Bigbuffs
Member
He's got a lot of potential. He was dominate his sophomore season. What makes you think he can't figure it out?
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I think he is gonna be the next great NFL WR. Kid is a monster.
Not to mention that he is nuts.
Sumlin's offensive system makes QBs look good in college, but that hasn't translated well to the League.
Would not be on my draft board at all.
Looks and plays disinterested most of the time. Hasn't progressed much at all in three years.
cubuffs85
Active Member
Jags haven't had a blackout in a while. They have too many seats because of the Florida/Georgia game. It's the smallest market in the league after Green Bay, under normal circumstances it shouldn't seat more than ~65k
I think any of the QBs who come out of the college spread or read-option offenses are a higher risk than those who have run a more traditional pro set. There is always the question of if they can adjust to making the much more complex reads required in the pro game.
Manziel is a very high risk because of his maturity issues and proven lack of self-control.
He could very well turn into a decent pro QB but it may be very dependant on him going to a franchise that has a team environment that will help him stay focused. If he ends up at a place like Oakland, Cleveland, etc. where players have had a history of going off track in various ways he is much more likely to flame out.