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2017 Football Advanced Stats & Analysis thread
- Thread starter Darth Snow
- Start date
Pac 12 S&P+ rankings through today:
Washington - 7
Stanford - 15
USC - 17
Washington St - 22
Oregon - 30
Utah - 33
Arizona - 36
UCLA - 58
Colorado - 68
Arizona St - 81
Cal - 87
Oregon St - 117
The conference has split into good teams, and not good teams. Arizona has moved up into the good teams side.
There are 17 FBS teams worse than CU: Kansas, Oregon St, Illinois, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Missouri, Baylor, Rutgers, North Carolina, Cal, Vanderbilt, Maryland, Arizona St, Kentucky, Duke, Nebraska, Northwestern.
Washington - 7
Stanford - 15
USC - 17
Washington St - 22
Oregon - 30
Utah - 33
Arizona - 36
UCLA - 58
Colorado - 68
Arizona St - 81
Cal - 87
Oregon St - 117
The conference has split into good teams, and not good teams. Arizona has moved up into the good teams side.
There are 17 FBS teams worse than CU: Kansas, Oregon St, Illinois, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Missouri, Baylor, Rutgers, North Carolina, Cal, Vanderbilt, Maryland, Arizona St, Kentucky, Duke, Nebraska, Northwestern.
Now down to #79 from top 25.
https://theathletic.com/130731/2017/10/18/stop-rate-fbs-defenses-college-football/
But in good news...
https://theathletic.com/131534/2017/10/19/akrum-wadley-iowa-running-back/
Here are the top 50 players in FBS running back efficiency entering Week 8 (minimum 68 carries).
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Pac 12 is a running back league this year.
https://theathletic.com/131534/2017/10/19/akrum-wadley-iowa-running-back/
Here are the top 50 players in FBS running back efficiency entering Week 8 (minimum 68 carries).
| Rank | Name | School | Rating |
| 1 | Bryce Love | Stanford | 9.27 |
| 2 | Rashaad Penny | San Diego State | 7.82 |
| 3 | Royce Freeman | Oregon | 7.37 |
| 4 | Damien Harris | Alabama | 7.36 |
| 5 | Ronald Jones II | USC | 7.28 |
| 6 | Saquon Barkley | Penn State | 7.18 |
| 6 | Jonathan Taylor | Wisconsin | 7.18 |
| 8 | Kerryon Johnson | Auburn | 7.05 |
| 9 | Phillip Lindsay | Colorado | 7.01 |
| 10 | Ryan Nall | Oregon State | 6.60 |
Pac 12 is a running back league this year.
to be more (roughly) 25% more efficient than anyone else in the nation with the defensive focus he faces... incredible.
not sure we have the best QBs, although there are intriguing prospects. QB talent is pretty spread out this year, and it's a down year outside a few guys. SEC is a wasteland.
Rosen, Darnold and Falk are probably 3 of the top 6 QB prospects. Rudolph and Mayfield are right there, though. Small sample size, but Tate could also be right there with Lamar Jackson to add a 4th QB to the Pac 12 in that mix.
Pac12 represented really well. osu has the Buffs to thank for that 10th spot.
Top prospects only because the class is weak this year. Rosen and Darnold have consistency and turnover issues. Rosen has the durability issue, and hasn't won much. Falk has the system QB knock. Best prospect has to be between rudolph and mayfield, with Lamar Jackson having the highest ceiling.
I agree with most of that, although, short of Darnold and USC completely imploding from here on out, I can't see anybody but him being the top QB going into the draft. Rudolph and Mayfield are more intriguing to me, even though Mayfield kind of has a "Johnny Football" aura about him. I think Lamar Jackson is the best college QB, but just not sure how the NFL views him. Rosen kind of feels Jay Cutler-esque. Prototypical everything from a physical standpoint, but so many questions about his attitude.
My money is on Ryan Nall not making that list after he plays a real run defense in Stanford this week and the benefit of having played CU becomes 1/8 vs. 1/7 of his output.
He's performed every time he's played. He good. Maybe not top 10 good, but he's good. And he's been hurt, so it's like 1/5.
Without doing the work and looking I'm going to go ahead and guess the guys above Nall have also benefited from gashing some horrible defenses. It's not like Phil's 2 huge games were against the conference elite.
At this point of the season, you can start to average that out. Everyone has played bad and good teams. To a degree.
I doubled checked his yards per carry so far this season:
@ WSU 7.9
@ CSU 7.7
CU 7.2
Minny 4.4
Port St 3.7
UW 2.0
USC did not play
So yeah, pretty bad on us against him, but we weren't the worst!
He's going to be a special teams stud in the NFL.
NeverGiveIn
Confused by the facts
...and we just barely snuck past by a single missed field goal.
No, we won the game by taking control in the 4th quarter and Oregon State missed a desperation 52-yarder to tie the game with a few seconds left.
Bufffan68
Club Member
That is one or two positives. Despite injuries, graduations and expulsions leading to a lack of talent on D, they held them. And the O responded. Gives me some hope tho OSU is the least talented team in the PAC.
NeverGiveIn
Confused by the facts
Duff Man before the 4th quarter:
"Now, our final round, which counts for 98% of the total score. Making the previous rounds a complete waste!"
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We got outplayed in the first half and gradually took control in the second half. Not saying it was a complete game by any stretch, but "barely snuck by a single missed field goal" is pretty lazy and glosses over what actually happened.
NeverGiveIn
Confused by the facts
It might not be a kind, or comprehensive characterization, but it is true that our only conference win was by the margin of a field goal (which they were close enough to attempt) against probably the worst team in the PAC-12, which doesn't make me beam with pride.
Not saying "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here" or anything, I am still proud of our boys and think we got some winning ahead.
So you agree it was lazy. Glad we were able to clear that up in less than five posts.
NeverGiveIn
Confused by the facts
Yeah.....I guess it was lazy.
Lame. Consider changing handles.
NeverGiveIn
Confused by the facts
Screw it.
i.e. you
What I said was objectively true. You guys don't have to agree with me about how encouraging our impressive win against OSU was. I am and always will be a Buffs fan. I'm looking forward to some fun games to watch and maybe a big win or two. Love to see 'em win.
hey man, he made a joke.