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For sure. Bobo's coaching this year with Lubick looking over his shoulder. That's a completely made up job he left UW for.

No doubt. A lot like galactic viceroy of research excellence. That was a real job but it sounds as real as that.
 
I have a grad class with the USC Associate AD tonight. I'm interested to hear his thoughts on the KK situation.
That should be very interesting.

My guess is that he was hired by Swann more than Helton to make a big splash for fans in a year they couldn't pull the trigger on firing Helton.

Then Kingsbury wasn't loyal to Swann, wanting to listen to NFL opportunities, so they had a very quick falling out.
 
Lubick isnt getting the CSU job. He has been overrated for a while with his stock generally trending way down.
 


Seems more like something Smart/UGA fans aren't crying over. I wonder if Johnson and Summers would've been promoted on staff there had we not hired them.


I could be wrong, but I'm never a fan of Bulldog's offense. Could be a good loss for Georgia.
 
Just saw this graphic on ESPN on the Kingsbury hiring:

The Old College Try

Kliff Kingsbury will join a select group of coaches who jumped to NFL head coach after spending the previous year as a college coach:
YEAR, COACHCOLLEGE TO NFL
2014 Bill O'BrienPenn St. to Texans
2013 Chip KellyOregon to Eagles
2013 Doug MarroneSyracuse to Bills
2012 Greg SchianoRutgers to Bucs
2011 Jim HarbaughStanford to 49ers
2010 Pete CarrollUSC to Seahawks
2007 Bobby PetrinoLouisville to Falcons
2005 Nick SabanLSU to Dolphins
2003 Dennis EricksonOregon St. to 49ers
2002 Steve SpurrierFlorida to Redskins
2001 Butch DavisMiami to Browns
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Not alot of success on that chart, maybe 3 successful coaches (Carroll, Harbaugh, O'Brien). Erickson should be on there twice (Miami to Seattle in 1995)
 
Just saw this graphic on ESPN on the Kingsbury hiring:

The Old College Try

Kliff Kingsbury will join a select group of coaches who jumped to NFL head coach after spending the previous year as a college coach:
YEAR, COACHCOLLEGE TO NFL
2014 Bill O'BrienPenn St. to Texans
2013 Chip KellyOregon to Eagles
2013 Doug MarroneSyracuse to Bills
2012 Greg SchianoRutgers to Bucs
2011 Jim HarbaughStanford to 49ers
2010 Pete CarrollUSC to Seahawks
2007 Bobby PetrinoLouisville to Falcons
2005 Nick SabanLSU to Dolphins
2003 Dennis EricksonOregon St. to 49ers
2002 Steve SpurrierFlorida to Redskins
2001 Butch DavisMiami to Browns
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Not alot of success on that chart, maybe 3 successful coaches (Carroll, Harbaugh, O'Brien). Erickson should be on there twice (Miami to Seattle in 1995)

That’s not a complete list. Jimmy Johnson isn’t on it either.
 
Just saw this graphic on ESPN on the Kingsbury hiring:

The Old College Try

Kliff Kingsbury will join a select group of coaches who jumped to NFL head coach after spending the previous year as a college coach:
YEAR, COACHCOLLEGE TO NFL
2014 Bill O'BrienPenn St. to Texans
2013 Chip KellyOregon to Eagles
2013 Doug MarroneSyracuse to Bills
2012 Greg SchianoRutgers to Bucs
2011 Jim HarbaughStanford to 49ers
2010 Pete CarrollUSC to Seahawks
2007 Bobby PetrinoLouisville to Falcons
2005 Nick SabanLSU to Dolphins
2003 Dennis EricksonOregon St. to 49ers
2002 Steve SpurrierFlorida to Redskins
2001 Butch DavisMiami to Browns
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Not alot of success on that chart, maybe 3 successful coaches (Carroll, Harbaugh, O'Brien). Erickson should be on there twice (Miami to Seattle in 1995)
Here’s the deal. The things that go into a college W-L record are not necessarily things that apply directly to a pro HC gig, especially in the new NFL. (h/t Woelken)
 
I am just praying for Rhule to go to the Jets so we can **** on Baylor for another couple of weeks and so this thread doesn't stop for hopefully another couple of weeks.
 
Here’s the deal. The things that go into a college W-L record are not necessarily things that apply directly to a pro HC gig, especially in the new NFL. (h/t Woelken)

Obviously.

So maybe Arizona is trying to do the reverse and instead of taking a very successful college coach they are taking a mediocre college coach. Maybe if Kingsbury was too good of a college coach he would not be "NFL ready".

Who knows. My point was that chasing "success" from college to the NFL has proven to be a very unsuccessful model in the last 19 years with only 3 out of 11 considered positive. Not sure what the stats are on hiring NFL coordinators into NFL jobs but it seems that would be a better path.
 
Rhule wanted to pick his own staff and their GM said no. What is it with these GMs thinking they need to choose more than just the Head Coach?
The GM has just as much to lose. He's focusing on bringing in a good OC to develop Darnold, not letting Rhule bring his friends. If this HC situation doesn't work out, the GM will lose his job too because he's on HC #2.
 
The GM has just as much to lose. He's focusing on bringing in a good OC to develop Darnold, not letting Rhule bring his friends. If this HC situation doesn't work out, the GM will lose his job too because he's on HC #2.
The GM's job is to focus on personnel and hire the Head Coach. He should not be picking and choosing the Head Coach's staff, regardless of what he has to lose. If you are hiring a guy to be your HC, but don't trust him to bring in the guys he needs to be successful, then why are you hiring him in the first place? It's a dysfunctional model and it's part of why the Jets will stay awful and why the Broncos have been so bad.
 
Obviously.

So maybe Arizona is trying to do the reverse and instead of taking a very successful college coach they are taking a mediocre college coach. Maybe if Kingsbury was too good of a college coach he would not be "NFL ready".

Who knows. My point was that chasing "success" from college to the NFL has proven to be a very unsuccessful model in the last 19 years with only 3 out of 11 considered positive. Not sure what the stats are on hiring NFL coordinators into NFL jobs but it seems that would be a better path.
Yes. Chasing success has been flawed in most all CFB => NFL moves. My premise is that they were using the wrong metrics about who would and would not succeed in this transition. NFL execs are now using different metrics.
 
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