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2019 Rocky Mountain Showdown (8/30)

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I am pretty sure CU can break its record of 8 straight over the goats. CU will be a five in a row come 8/30. The only question is how much will CU win by. I sure hope they don't have to unnecessarily burn redshirts to keep the score down.
 
Duff Man said:
I think it is 30/70 he is gone after this season.
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https://bobohas2gogo.com/
https://hkm.com/football/contracts/mike-bobo/

I believe Bobo's pay is the highest in the MWC.

When you include FCS schools, CSU's 2019 class was #150 which was down from #86 in 2018.

Money shouldn't be an issue. CSU has paid the stadium bills in each season they have played and haven't had to dip into the $50M stadium fund for that stadium. Bobo's buyout will be about $5M after the season is done. That figure drops to $3M on January 1, 2020.

I think 30/70 is too optimistic in this case.
 
Jalapeno said:
https://bobohas2gogo.com/
https://hkm.com/football/contracts/mike-bobo/

I believe Bobo's pay is the highest in the MWC.

When you include FCS schools, CSU's 2019 class was #150 which was down from #86 in 2018.

Money shouldn't be an issue. CSU has paid the stadium bills in each season they have played and haven't had to dip into the $50M stadium fund for that stadium. Bobo's buyout will be about $5M after the season is done. That figure drops to $3M on January 1, 2020.

I think 30/70 is too optimistic in this case.
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Money is usually the issue when it comes to firing a coach, no matter what school you are talking about.

$5 million is a big number, especially when you essentially double it to hire a new coach. The January 1st figure is a non-starter unless a school is willing to completely write off an entire recruiting class.
 
patebuff said:
He'd be smart to stay as a coordinator. P5 coordinators are getting to the point that it is smarter (financially and career) to stick it out a few more years and wait for a P5 HC position.
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Matt Lubick left coaching after last year and is some kind of liaison between Canvas Credit Union and CSU. My comment was more in jest as that kind of position seems very arbitrary in nature, but it just seems odd that a seemingly successful P5 position coach who became a P5 Co-OC would just quit and change his career so all of the sudden. It's also very coincidental that he takes this weird job at the same University he played for and his Dad is a coaching legend.
 
Duff Man said:
Money is usually the issue when it comes to firing a coach, no matter what school you are talking about.

$5 million is a big number, especially when you essentially double it to hire a new coach. The January 1st figure is a non-starter unless a school is willing to completely write off an entire recruiting class.
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Doesn't goat U do that very year? What would be the big deal?
 
TSchekler said:
Matt Lubick left coaching after last year and is some kind of liaison between Canvas Credit Union and CSU. My comment was more in jest as that kind of position seems very arbitrary in nature, but it just seems odd that a seemingly successful P5 position coach who became a P5 Co-OC would just quit and change his career so all of the sudden. It's also very coincidental that he takes this weird job at the same University he played for and his Dad is a coaching legend.
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Somebody has to hand out the free toasters at Canvas Credit Union.
 
Duff Man said:
Money is usually the issue when it comes to firing a coach, no matter what school you are talking about.

$5 million is a big number, especially when you essentially double it to hire a new coach. The January 1st figure is a non-starter unless a school is willing to completely write off an entire recruiting class.
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CSU is ****ed.
 
patebuff said:
He'd be smart to stay as a coordinator. P5 coordinators are getting to the point that it is smarter (financially and career) to stick it out a few more years and wait for a P5 HC position.
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Lubick left UW to work for Canvas Credit Union as a "liaison" between them and CSU for those of us who don't give a **** about CSU like me (@TSchekler beat me to it)
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https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sp...nership-colorado-state-university/2513081002/

Don't laugh at this, but if I were their AD and I decided to fire Bobo-(I'm throwing this out there because I don't see how this guy isn't looking for another job after this season), I'd be really interested in Clay Helton. He strikes me as the kind of coach who could win in the group of 5, and he'd be dirt cheap (they could easily pay him 400-500k until 2023 when USC finally pays him off and then give him a raise when that goes away-basically what USF did when they hired Charlie Strong). He's also got a QB in that Fusker transfer who can probably run the type of offense that he likes (what he ran before SC brought in Kliffy and then Graham Harrell).

https://larrybrownsports.com/colleg...ut-contributed-usc-keeping-clay-helton/474247
 
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ahoelsken said:
Lubick left UW to work for Canvas Credit Union as a "liaison" between them and CSU for those of us who don't give a **** about CSU like me (@TSchekler beat me to it)
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https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sp...nership-colorado-state-university/2513081002/

Don't laugh at this, but if I were their AD and I decided to fire Bobo-(I'm throwing this out there because I don't see how this guy isn't looking for another job after this season), I'd be really interested in Clay Helton. He strikes me as the kind of coach who could win in the group of 5, and he'd be dirt cheap (they could easily pay him 400-500k until 2023 when USC finally pays him off and then give him a raise when that goes away-basically what USF did when they hired Charlie Strong). He's also got a QB in that Fusker transfer who can probably run the type of offense that he likes (what he ran before SC brought in Kliffy and then Graham Harrell).

https://larrybrownsports.com/colleg...ut-contributed-usc-keeping-clay-helton/474247
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Getting rid of Bobo would be the worst thing csewe could do. But if they did, there is a little engine that could in Davis, CA who would be perfect for them.
 
Jalapeno said:
https://bobohas2gogo.com/
https://hkm.com/football/contracts/mike-bobo/

I believe Bobo's pay is the highest in the MWC.

When you include FCS schools, CSU's 2019 class was #150 which was down from #86 in 2018.

Money shouldn't be an issue. CSU has paid the stadium bills in each season they have played and haven't had to dip into the $50M stadium fund for that stadium. Bobo's buyout will be about $5M after the season is done. That figure drops to $3M on January 1, 2020.

I think 30/70 is too optimistic in this case.
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Waiting until January would be a disaster for recruiting.
 
Unleash Hell said:
What has me a little nervous about the game is the new coaching debuts against them are usually the ones the Rams surprise us. Our previous 4 coaches all lost their 1st game against CSU. You have to go back to Neuheisel as the last coach to win his first matchup vs CSU.
*edit, I think Embree might have won his first game vs CSU, but we have still not fared well lately when we have a new coach against them
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Mike MacIntyre's debut came against them, and we won. I don't see how this is not a bigger ***-whooping than 2016 and 2018 were.....we've got a big boy coach and a lot of returning talent on offense (Steven, Viska, KD, etc.) and they're one of the 10 worst teams in the sport.
https://cubuffs.com/news/2013/9/1/209248100.aspx
 
leftybuff said:
Getting rid of Bobo would be the worst thing csewe could do. But if they did, there is a little engine that could in Davis, CA who would be perfect for them.
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leftybuff said:
Getting rid of Bobo would be the worst thing csewe could do. But if they did, there is a little engine that could in Davis, CA who would be perfect for them.
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If CSU was dumb enough to hire Bobo in the first place...they certainly could hire Hawkins.
 
TSchekler said:
Matt Lubick left coaching after last year and is some kind of liaison between Canvas Credit Union and CSU. My comment was more in jest as that kind of position seems very arbitrary in nature, but it just seems odd that a seemingly successful P5 position coach who became a P5 Co-OC would just quit and change his career so all of the sudden. It's also very coincidental that he takes this weird job at the same University he played for and his Dad is a coaching legend.
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Had no idea, thanks!
 
Bobo did repay his bonus to the school last year because he felt bad with how he performed.... he might cut them slack on his buyout
 
leftybuff said:
Somebody has to hand out the free toasters at Canvas Credit Union.
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Mat Stephens wrote an article about it back in January and he denied the idea of a conspiracy because the Lubick name had too much integrity to swoop in on Bobo like that, and supposedly Canvas CU wanted a high profile name. Just odd all the way around
 
DrunkRalphie said:
CSU is ****ed.
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And it won't get better.

If they come up with the money to fire Bobo the next coaching hire will have to be on the cheap, either somebody who is currently far from a HC job at a significant program or a questionable retread. If it's the first it will be a guy who is a coordinator at a G5 or at a bad P5. They aren't getting a coordinator from a top program who recognizes the lack of talent and potential to kill a career.

Again if it is a retread it won't be one of the prominent ones, it will be somebody who failed at a mid to lower level program.

Likely that coach won't be the guy to fix things but he will get time because just like now they will struggle to come up with the money to fire him.

On the other hand if he wins he will be gone on the first plane out and CSU will be left with some buyout money and another coaching hire to make.
 
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