This logic would lead to outlawing alcohol, among many other things.
Well, it would certainly lead to laws prohibiting the consumption of alcohol by teenagers . . . we wouldn't want that.
This logic would lead to outlawing alcohol, among many other things.
And if we have reason to believe that ACC are coercing players into participating against their will, I'll agree 100% I haven't heard anything beyond your speculation that's something taking place, though.Personal choice is only relevant in the absence of coercion.
Or laws against consumption by drivers (to prevent drunk driving) or laws against consumption by married people (to prevent domestic violence)....Well, it would certainly lead to laws prohibiting the consumption of alcohol by teenagers . . . we wouldn't want that.
If you believe that csu was an isolated incident, we will simply have to disagree. Coaches are not the players’ peers. They exert significant influence over players. Coaches have substantial financial motive to pressure players into playing. Situations like the one at csu will only grow as the season wears on and more COVID-19 spikes occur in many states where the ACC, $EC, and Big 12 of 10 live.And if we have reason to believe that ACC are coercing players into participating against their will, I'll agree 100% I haven't heard anything beyond your speculation that's something taking place, though.
I also think there's a difference between coercion and peer pressure.
Seriously, players being given a choice between "don't play and still keep scholarship" and "play, build commadarie with teammates, pursue your passion and increase your exposure to NFL scouts" is not something to condemn.
Players being coerced into believing they'll lose their scholarships if they opt out, would be something to condemn.
AFAIK, there's no cause to conflate these.
Your logical fallacies are showing. Conflating juvenile and adult behaviors is just weak sauce.Or laws against consumption by drivers (to prevent drunk driving) or laws against consumption by married people (to prevent domestic violence)....
I'm listening. Please point out my fallacies-- I'm very open to logical reasoning.Your logical fallacies are showing. Conflating juvenile and adult behaviors is just weak sauce.
You don’t think there’s any csu stuff going on at bigger programs?
I'm listening. Please point out my fallacies-- I'm very open to logical reasoning.
Thank you for the corrections.Actually in the 1st trial it is a 9.5% chance that 1 or more die. The second one is a 91.8% chance that 1 or more die. You need an IFR of 0.001% to give a 0.5% chance of having 1 or more people die if you have 500 infections.
Better yet if you have 100 player on the team and end up with 10% infected the odds of one of your players dying is 1%, based on a 0.001% IFR. Apply that to 39 teams and you have an issue. Even if only 1% of players on those 39 teams gets the virus, there is a 3.8% chance one of them dies. If 10% get it, it shoots up to 32%.
This logic would lead to outlawing alcohol, among many other things.
No question. That applies to everything in life though, not just playing football. And, this reasoning is what led to keeping doctor-assisted suicide illegal in most states.
I get what both of you are saying, I just think you're undervaluing personal choice in this matter.
He’s the only one who’s been caught so far. COVID-19 will get worse as football season ramps up.Adazzio was just the only guy dumb enough to get caught.
Reading is an important skill.I'm listening. Please point out my fallacies-- I'm very open to logical reasoning.
Well, that wasn't predictable.9 positive tests for OU football players after they took a few days off...
How many days off is a few? Incubation period suggests that they very well could have been infected the days they were practicing if "a few" is 4 days or less.9 positive tests for OU football players after they took a few days off...
Three outbreaks at UNC.Fortunately, football players are too busy to, well, get busy.
Oklahoma State sorority house placed in quarantine after 23 members test positive for Covid-19
An Oklahoma State University sorority house is under quarantine after 23 members tested positive for Covid-19, according to the university.www.cnn.com
Those girls need to knock off the topless pillow fights. Guys are on ladders outside watching them. Behind a window. Practicing social distancing. Good on those gentlemen. Those ladies however? They should know better.Fortunately, football players are too busy to, well, get busy.
Oklahoma State sorority house placed in quarantine after 23 members test positive for Covid-19
An Oklahoma State University sorority house is under quarantine after 23 members tested positive for Covid-19, according to the university.www.cnn.com
Several CFB players around country not happy with returning students’ covid practices. Now Bama AD weighs in.
message board rumors that ACC will announce tomorrow "no fans at games"SIAP, but what’s the plan in the ACC/SEC and B12 for fans in attendance?
what IF the Pac 12 ends up the only non-PAC5 that doesn't try to play ?I saw some probably unreliable at best nuggets on Twitter that with the petition stuff going on in the BIG and the new rapid testing stuff being funded by the NBA, that the BIG is considering rethinking the Fall season cancellation. Highly doubt it's real, but there's a lot of pressure being applied right now.
most of the outcomes that come to mind are not good.what IF the Pac 12 ends up the only non-PAC5 that doesn't try to play ?
Would say highly doubtful.I saw some probably unreliable at best nuggets on Twitter that with the petition stuff going on in the BIG and the new rapid testing stuff being funded by the NBA, that the BIG is considering rethinking the Fall season cancellation. Highly doubt it's real, but there's a lot of pressure being applied right now.
SIAP. hilarious. to me, anyway.
I kept waiting for them to burn the Pac12, but not even acknowledging us is the sickest burn of all.It is funny... Except that the Pac 12 is so irrelevant, they can't even make the cut for satirical sketches.