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2025 Season Expectations

I’ll wait and see how this cycle goes. The hold up with Primes extension was NIL related and all of it was presumably taken care of. I’ve also been told a couple things:

1. Money is not an issue, but that obviously doesn’t mean they have an Oregon/Texas/A&M/tOSU level blank check, so they aren’t going to “overpay” for many guys

2. There is more than just pure talent/star rating that CP considers, especially when it comes to guys he’s willing to drop big bags for. They know that not everyone is built for or is the right fit for the way they run this program and it’s pretty evident when they get some of these guys on campus. They make sure everyone they bring in is a complete fit for the culture, which means its not just about football.

That all makes sense to me and I think he’s going to build a very good program that will compete for Big 12 Championships. However, competing for National Championships is his stated goal and until he starts flirting with top 10 classes, I’m not sure that’s a realistic goal.
I know people are saying money isn't an issue but I don't see how CU comes close to the figures big schools are throwing out there to premium players who are the same guys Prime and Co are targeting.

I'd love to be wrong but I think the current landscape has ****ed CU badly after we decided to **** ourselves for nearly 2 decades.
 
I know people are saying money isn't an issue but I don't see how CU comes close to the figures big schools are throwing out there to premium players who are the same guys Prime and Co are targeting.

I'd love to be wrong but I think the current landscape has ****ed CU badly after we decided to **** ourselves for nearly 2 decades.
As I said, they don’t have a blank check like the top handful of programs, so they are obviously going to lose out on some guys they are targeting. They will also win some battles as well.

If CU signs a class of say 15 HS kids, I would expect the following:

5*: 1-2
4*: 4-5
3* (with many P4 options): 8-10

If they expand the class and sign 20 guys, I think it’s one extra 4* and four extra 3* types. The avg rating probably in the 90 range, which will still put them 1 or 2 in the Big 12 and top 20 nationally for avg rating.

The quality per recruit is going to be similar to many big programs, but the difference is that they aren’t going to have the quantity of those quality recruits so their margin for error on their signings panning out is small relative to the top programs.
 
As I said, they don’t have a blank check like the top handful of programs, so they are obviously going to lose out on some guys they are targeting. They will also win some battles as well.

If CU signs a class of say 15 HS kids, I would expect the following:

5*: 1-2
4*: 4-5
3* (with many P4 options): 8-10

If they expand the class and sign 20 guys, I think it’s one extra 4* and four extra 3* types. The avg rating probably in the 90 range, which will still put them 1 or 2 in the Big 12 and top 20 nationally for avg rating.

The quality per recruit is going to be similar to many big programs, but the difference is that they aren’t going to have the quantity of those quality recruits so their margin for error on their signings panning out is small relative to the top programs.
This post is general to the general discussion, I think the enforcement of Non-Nil deals is a huge unknown rendering High School recruiting an unknown.

In theory the House Settlement could equalize NIL somewhat, but the devil is in the regulation/enforcement ("the E-ARM") of the non-NIL deals. For many players it is still show me the $$$. Some schools have/will always have Whales, so if the enforcement lags or is toothless it will just be a about who pays/cheats the best with those non-House NIL deals. For the proposed E-ARM, it will take them time, probably years to upscale it and set precedents. To be successful the E-ARM will have to be a large scale and experienced with learned expertise. Then it is strict how they act and where they set the bar in scrutinizing non-House NIL deals? I suspect the P-4 commissioners and members are not all that interested in strict or punitive enforcement--they may want to keep some wild-west. I sort of draw this conclusion because the "tampering" problem has been mentioned, however anti-tampering type rules/penalties not really discussed. It is inevitable some programs will play the "catch us if you can" game in cheating or non-NIL compensation--Pony Excess ("we have a payroll to meet"), in Florida's programs wasn't one NIL collective a Ponzi scheme and the other (UF) just the Jaden Rashada fraud.

Although CU does not have a Whale, CU is interesting because in this open NIL era our players made any sorts of deal, some with of novel entrepreneurship angles, and I think our in-house media/hype machine helps. Prime helps this with his experience as a player and coach maximizing his own endorsements and relationships with others. IMO, next to the $$$, probably next on a players list are playing time, exposure and NFL opp. Prime is a hype/exposure machine.

Addressing the HS recruiting, during the interim roll out of House NIL and E-ARM enforcement, I still see an active transfer portal and the big $$$ going to experienced transfers. IMO, the portal will not slow down until there are mandatory sit out years for transfers, and it appears doubtful the Courts go for that. Overall, in HS recruiting the attrition rate is pretty high--just so many HS 4*'s in the portal who stay 1-2 seasons, tank, or suffer injuries. IMO, HS recruiting is important for some buzz, but also it is a huge risk in apportioning substantial NIL for Freshman. The very top echelon of players may demand/receive it, but a program cannot massively invest in a blue-chip 4-5* recruit and not have them work out or just transfer after 2 years. Also, for win-now teams or coaches nearing the hot seat, they need experienced players to win now, so they should glean towards the portal.

Until CU is a well established program with 3-5 winnings seasons, a couple of top-10's, a playoff appearance and win, and looked Primed for a run at a NC, I do not believe recruiting lights out at the HS level taking 17-20 players likely. Given House, HS recruits may not be CU's priority until things shake out and we take more steps as a program. However, if the NIL market for upper-tier 3* recruit (flier guys with high ceiling, but unknown) is abnormally low/non-existent, I could see teams back-fill players with negligible NIL with CU recruiting following suit. As we see at QB JUJU is our 5* of the future, but we still had to bring in Salter paying him as a 1 year bridge. Same thing with Texas, Arch Manning had huge upside compared to Ewers, but Sark had to play Ewers to give them the best chance at a NC last year and just fell short.
 
picard too long didnt read GIF
 
I've noticed you have a bit of a penis fixation JM. No worry for me, I have gay friends.
 
CU's OL coach this year is an OL coach from a relatively famous Pay to Play Private HS Football Factory. Another year in which CU has no experienced college OL coach. That plus big question marks at QB and RB make this season a 7-5 at best. My interest in this program is waning.
 
I’m trying to think of another poster (besides me) who has been as consistently wrong about pretty much everything he/she says on this board as PAHI has over the past few years. Politics, Prime, CU football, it doesn’t really matter.

If he says CU’s ceiling is 7-5, I’m smashing the Over hard
 
I’m trying to think of another poster (besides me) who has been as consistently wrong about pretty much everything he/she says on this board as PAHI has over the past few years. Politics, Prime, CU football, it doesn’t really matter.

If he says CU’s ceiling is 7-5, I’m smashing the Over hard
All I need is him to post that the Buffs are going to get beat by GaTech and I know my quite significant preseason parlay of CU ML + CU O6.5 wins is a sure thing.
 
There isn’t a single team on the schedule that CU can’t beat and I think their home/road splits are pretty favorable, so I truly believe their ceiling is 12-0. That said, they do have the hardest schedule in the Big 12 and they obviously aren’t head and shoulders above most in the conference.

If Salter is the 2023 version, this team is going 10-2 or 11-1. If he’s the 2024 version, it’s a 7-5 floor with a 9-3 ceiling.
 
There isn’t a single team on the schedule that CU can’t beat and I think their home/road splits are pretty favorable, so I truly believe their ceiling is 12-0. That said, they do have the hardest schedule in the Big 12 and they obviously aren’t head and shoulders above most in the conference.

If Salter is the 2023 version, this team is going 10-2 or 11-1. If he’s the 2024 version, it’s a 7-5 floor with a 9-3 ceiling.
If he's the 2024 version, Juju will be starting by Game 3.
 
There isn’t a single team on the schedule that CU can’t beat and I think their home/road splits are pretty favorable, so I truly believe their ceiling is 12-0. That said, they do have the hardest schedule in the Big 12 and they obviously aren’t head and shoulders above most in the conference.

If Salter is the 2023 version, this team is going 10-2 or 11-1. If he’s the 2024 version, it’s a 7-5 floor with a 9-3 ceiling.
At one end of variance, 12 wins is possible. 7-8 wins is the floor. Less is a failure. More is gravy.
 
There isn’t a single team on the schedule that CU can’t beat and I think their home/road splits are pretty favorable, so I truly believe their ceiling is 12-0. That said, they do have the hardest schedule in the Big 12 and they obviously aren’t head and shoulders above most in the conference.

If Salter is the 2023 version, this team is going 10-2 or 11-1. If he’s the 2024 version, it’s a 7-5 floor with a 9-3 ceiling.

I like your thinking. I don't think that it is just Salter, but the QB position and new offensive tweaks/system are a big ifs? For 10-12 wins, I think we are projecting that CU's defense is easily top-4 in the conference (maybe top-2), which IMO is entirely possible. With good QB'ing and a good start to the season (i.e. 5-0 or 6-1), I can easily see 10 wins. Of the last 5 games, AZ should be a gimmie, hopefully favored at WV but @Morgentown, and @UT, AZ St. and @KState will be pick em' or CU underdogs, unless those teams are under-performing/suffer injuries. I can see UT having some of the same problems popping up and ASU either being overrated or just hitting the wall. If CU is in the hunt early and throughout the season, all our opponents are beatable. 11-12 win might be a stretch as the CFB season is a grind. Any QB can throw a stinker on the road...
 
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CU's OL coach this year is an OL coach from a relatively famous Pay to Play Private HS Football Factory. Another year in which CU has no experienced college OL coach. That plus big question marks at QB and RB make this season a 7-5 at best. My interest in this program is waning.
How many games did the Buffs win last year? I’ll give you a clue:
Ferris Buellers Day Off Nine Times GIF

Ferris Buellers Day Off Nine Times GIF
 
There isn’t a single team on the schedule that CU can’t beat and I think their home/road splits are pretty favorable, so I truly believe their ceiling is 12-0. That said, they do have the hardest schedule in the Big 12 and they obviously aren’t head and shoulders above most in the conference.

If Salter is the 2023 version, this team is going 10-2 or 11-1. If he’s the 2024 version, it’s a 7-5 floor with a 9-3 ceiling.

I haven't looked at everyone else's schedule but I don't think ours is all that bad since we avoid Baylor and TT. Georgia Tech is gonna be sneaky good. But yea everybody is beatable for sure but at the same time I'd rate 7 or 8 of our games as toss up's.
 
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