'23 TNFR TE Kyle Morlock (Verbal to FSU)

[Darth Snow]

Any argument that centers around the idea that the TE position is dying is not compelling. The position has so much value beyond what shows up in that stat sheet under receptions and yards.

Yea, what a decent TE will do for you in the running game by allowing you to shift formation strengths and angles alone is worthwhile even if that guy catches 2 balls a game. If you find a special athlete at that position, it breaks defenses.

 

[GoBuffs08]

Any argument that centers around the idea that the TE position is dying is not compelling. The position has so much value beyond what shows up in that stat sheet under receptions and yards.

A TE that is an actual threat to catch balls downfield forces the D to make so many changes in the secondary, with the big benefit of ending up with single coverage on WR

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

Any argument that centers around the idea that the TE position is dying is not compelling. The position has so much value beyond what shows up in that stat sheet under receptions and yards.

It's the equivalent to saying that PA pass is pointless.

 

[Buffnik]

Any argument that centers around the idea that the TE position is dying is not compelling. The position has so much value beyond what shows up in that stat sheet under receptions and yards.

For your red zone efficiency alone, having good TEs is a game changer

 

[Uncle Ken]

Noles. They suck.

 

[White_Rabbit]

Him: Is te really a need for this team anyway?

Me: ??? Arguably the worst position on the team

Him: Does Lewis’ O use the te? I honestly don’t know. The te scholarship allotment has been far out of whack for too long. IMO the last thing this class ever needed was two more. Obviously if CU pulls in an elite te this cycle, I’ll be all for it, just don’t see it as a major need over the other holes in the roster.

Him: If an O doesn’t feature the te, does it really matter if the position is weak?

Me: It does, though. Maybe not a traditional, in-line, but more of an H Back type

Him: It can be valuable no doubt. I guess my main point is, until this roster is actually flipped, there are way bigger issues to fill on the roster before te/h back. Most te in college football are JAGs it’s a dying position

Me: Uhhhh what??

Him: Aside from Utah, Georgia, n ND who’s really using tes as a difference maker? I get it you want a glorified fullback. I’d rather see scholarships going out to players that will have an impact on the game.

Me: And LSU, Florida, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, etc. It’s not a dying position at all. It’s actually a position NFL teams are drooling over to draft and makes a huge difference in CFB if you have one

Him: Lsus te had 340 yards on the ssn. There are only 5 te in P5 that went for over 500. Im sorry I don’t see 38 ypg as a focal point or need when you have one of the worst rosters in the nation. I see te as more of a luxury than a necessity. Obviously we disagree

Me: I can see how you would come to that conclusion when looking at the stat sheets alone, but the position is extremely valuable to offenses that compete at the highest level.

Him: I see CUs O closer resembling the USC, Ohio state, tenn, and Bamas of the college world more than Iowa, wisc, and Michigan’s

Me: [Left the chat]

mods if this person comes over here, ban them immediately

 

[manhattanbuff]

UGA has a QB who is mostly JAGgy but is mega loaded on OL, TE, and RB who’s about to repeat as national champion. Their TEs get so much spacing that Ladd McConkey is wide open all of the time. This dude’s so dense that he thinks that’s bad? Apparently he didn’t see Utah’s 3rd string TE destroy Colorado and U$C in back to back weeks.

 

[BUFFS14]

We have a couple TE listed in the 250 range. Add some weight and give them the opportunity to move inside.

 

[MtnBuff]

Any argument that centers around the idea that the TE position is dying is not compelling. The position has so much value beyond what shows up in that stat sheet under receptions and yards.

It is a difficult enough position that most colleges don't have a good one.

That is part of the reason that if you do have a good one many college defenses don't know how to handle him, even a lot of pro defenses aren't effective against a good TE.

One of the reasons I like good TEs is that they give you a high degree of versatility. They can make the running game better but when the D tries to take that away they end up making them more effective receiving.

Also they keep drives alive. Having an easy completion in the middle of the field can turn a play with pressure on the QB into a first down, turn a 3rd down into a 1st.

 

[Darth Snow]

We have a couple TE listed in the 250 range. Add some weight and give them the opportunity to move inside.

Huh?

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

We have a couple TE listed in the 250 range. Add some weight and give them the opportunity to move inside.

Those days are over.

 

[BUFFS14]

Huh?

TEs have good feet. They are all freshman, add some weight and see if they can move to center or a guard position.

 

[BUFFS14]

Those days are over.

Probably right. I like a couple of them so trying to find a way to keep them around because I hope we recruit over them.

 

[BUFFS14]

Those days are over.

DP

 

[buffaholic]

Him: Is te really a need for this team anyway?

Me: ??? Arguably the worst position on the team

Him: Does Lewis’ O use the te? I honestly don’t know. The te scholarship allotment has been far out of whack for too long. IMO the last thing this class ever needed was two more. Obviously if CU pulls in an elite te this cycle, I’ll be all for it, just don’t see it as a major need over the other holes in the roster.

Him: If an O doesn’t feature the te, does it really matter if the position is weak?

Me: It does, though. Maybe not a traditional, in-line, but more of an H Back type

Him: It can be valuable no doubt. I guess my main point is, until this roster is actually flipped, there are way bigger issues to fill on the roster before te/h back. Most te in college football are JAGs it’s a dying position

Me: Uhhhh what??

Him: Aside from Utah, Georgia, n ND who’s really using tes as a difference maker? I get it you want a glorified fullback. I’d rather see scholarships going out to players that will have an impact on the game.

Me: And LSU, Florida, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, etc. It’s not a dying position at all. It’s actually a position NFL teams are drooling over to draft and makes a huge difference in CFB if you have one

Him: Lsus te had 340 yards on the ssn. There are only 5 te in P5 that went for over 500. Im sorry I don’t see 38 ypg as a focal point or need when you have one of the worst rosters in the nation. I see te as more of a luxury than a necessity. Obviously we disagree

Me: I can see how you would come to that conclusion when looking at the stat sheets alone, but the position is extremely valuable to offenses that compete at the highest level.

Him: I see CUs O closer resembling the USC, Ohio state, tenn, and Bamas of the college world more than Iowa, wisc, and Michigan’s

Me: [Left the chat]

That last line should have been:
Me: thanks Christian.