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2nd CFP Poll - Tonight at 5pm MT ESPN #12 COLORADO

Where will CU rank tonight?

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .
Denver_sc said:
If losing to an FCS team was such a big deal, then how come WSU was ranked last week and USC leapfrogged them this week?

Also, WSU beat a P5 team on the road by 62 points last week. I'm not sure how you could definitively say that USC could "beat just about anybody right now" if beating someone on the road by 62 points doesn't also qualify WSU for that descriptor.
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They WERE NOT ON THE ROAD.
 
BUFFSROCKS said:
I'm a kirk herbstreit fan, I think he knows college football and he just reiterated why i like him......talking about who is the one 2 loss team that could get in...his response and couldn't have said it better myself..."How about Ralphie?" Love it.
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Joey Galloway as well
 
The margin of victory difference between Wazzu and USC in last week's games is irrelevant because neither is considered a "good" win. You cannot get too hung up on margin of victory against poor opponents after the three touchdown mark or so.
 
Duff Man said:
The margin of victory difference between Wazzu and USC in last week's games is irrelevant because neither is considered a "good" win. You cannot get too hung up on margin of victory against poor opponents after the three touchdown mark or so.
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Yep. All about game control. Were they threatened and, if so, for how long.
 
Duff Man said:
The margin of victory difference between Wazzu and USC in last week's games is irrelevant because neither is considered a "good" win. You cannot get too hung up on margin of victory against poor opponents after the three touchdown mark or so.
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The CFP "formula" voting is supposed to be set up so margin of victory doesn't matter.
 
TSchekler said:
The CFP "formula" voting is supposed to be set up so margin of victory doesn't matter.
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Sure. I bet Ohio State would have made it in 2014 if they had beat Wisconsin 24-10. Margin of victory HAS to matter at some level when it comes to "good" wins.
 
Duff Man said:
Sure. I bet Ohio State would have made it in 2014 if they had beat Wisconsin 24-10. Margin of victory HAS to matter at some level when it comes to "good" wins.
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I tend to agree because it's people doing the voting, but it truly isn't supposed to be taken into consideration. That was much more BCS than what the CFP wants. I'm sure you understand all this, but they were talking about it with Klatt this morning and wasn't something I was aware of
 
Duff Man said:
Sure. I bet Ohio State would have made it in 2014 if they had beat Wisconsin 24-10. Margin of victory HAS to matter at some level when it comes to "good" wins.
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Is it the same committee as 2 years ago? They seem to care less about the "eyeball test" this year and are kind of geeking out with the strength of schedule stuff.
 
TSchekler said:
I tend to agree because it's people doing the voting, but it truly isn't supposed to be taken into consideration. That was much more BCS than what the CFP wants. I'm sure you understand all this, but they were talking about it with Klatt this morning and wasn't something I was aware of
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It is a very good point. As I posted earlier, I think after about 21 points, margin of victory becomes worthless anyway. Is Wazzu's victory over Arizona really any more impressive than USC's victory over Arizona earlier this season? I suppose, if you only look at the final score.

A convincing victory is a convincing victory.
 
Buffnik said:
Is it the same committee as 2 years ago? They seem to care less about the "eyeball test" this year and are kind of geeking out with the strength of schedule stuff.
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Fair point. This committee has a much tougher job though IMO. I suppose SOS is as good a metric as any with so many two-loss teams.
 
zbuff said:
I will never get the love fest for USC. They are the same team we were within a score of, without our starting QB, on the road. "...could beat just about anybody.." is an extreme stretch.
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Meh. We barely beat UCLA at home WITH our starting quarterback.
 
CUAviator said:
Meh. We barely beat UCLA at home WITH our starting quarterback.
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Beat UCLA by more than they have been beaten by all year. May have been ugly and we didn't play to the best of our abilities, but UCLA took a top 10 team on the road to overtime. I think Rosen is overrated btw.
 
What are our quality wins at this point?
ASU?
Maybe we should just focus on Arizona for now. Far and away the most difficult wins are ahead of us.
 
CUwhit21 said:
6-3 Stanford on the road. That's a 9 win team with a brutal schedule.
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If we win out we will have a very impressive set of wins. I believe Stanford will win out and that puts them at 9-3 with losses to UW, WSU, and CU. We'd also have wins against WSU, UU, and UW.

A decent number of analysts believe this is the year a two-loss conference champ makes it to the playoff...
 
FightCu1414 said:
Beat UCLA by more than they have been beaten by all year. May have been ugly and we didn't play to the best of our abilities, but UCLA took a top 10 team on the road to overtime. I think Rosen is overrated btw.
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I would also add that it wasn't so much the way CU played it was the way the team reacted poorly to the chippiness with personal fouls. Defensively, it cost us 4-7 points (TD drive either wouldn't have happened or been a FG). Offensively, it cost us 4 points when we had a 2nd down from 1 foot away and ended up moving back to kick a FG. Stalled other drives and extended other UCLA drives. I think it's safe to say that if CU hadn't been stupid with personal fouls that we outplayed them by a margin of 20 points or more.
 
LongHaulBuff said:
They WERE NOT ON THE ROAD.
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Fair enough; I thought they were in Tucson. I was wrong.

Buffnik said:
Yep. All about game control. Were they threatened and, if so, for how long.
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Ok, but even if that's the metric of choice, WSU could not have possibly have a lower game control metric than they did before the UA game, and likewise for USC (although it's impossible to tell because so far as I'm aware ESPN or whomever manages that stat does not release the methodology).

The point is, it speaks to wild inconsistency by the CFP committee- one week USC isn't a top 25 team and WSU is, and the next week USC is better than WSU according to the committee, but I struggle to see what happened on the field to make them believe that.

That inconsistency should be troubling for CU fans if we have any shot to win the P12.
 
Denver_sc said:
Fair enough; I thought they were in Tucson. I was wrong.



Ok, but even if that's the metric of choice, WSU could not have possibly have a lower game control metric than they did before the UA game, and likewise for USC (although it's impossible to tell because so far as I'm aware ESPN or whomever manages that stat does not release the methodology).

The point is, it speaks to wild inconsistency by the CFP committee- one week USC isn't a top 25 team and WSU is, and the next week USC is better than WSU according to the committee, but I struggle to see what happened on the field to make them believe that.

That inconsistency should be troubling for CU fans if we have any shot to win the P12.
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Agree that it doesn't make sense from week 1 to week 2 of the CFP in respect to USC & WSU. I'd also say that there's no reason to say that 3-loss FSU should have been ranked while 3-loss USC was not.

USC: blown out vs #1 Alabama (neutral site), lost soundly at Stanford, lost on final drive at #15 Utah, best win at home vs #12 Colorado (QB switch goes with trend that they're getting better as season progresses)
FSU: blown out at #6 Louisville, lost close at home vs #17 North Carolina, lost close at home vs #2 Clemson, best win on road at 7-2 USF
 
Ok, so is the playoff the top 4 teams or the top 6?

I know they had talked about making it top 8, but I can't remember what they decided upon.
 
good a place as any for this one. SB nation's ranking of CFB divisions

intent behind this post is to mock the SEC East, but I'll beat my chest over the ACC while I'm at it.

1. SEC West+15.1
2. ACC Atlantic+9.5
3. Big Ten East+9.2
4. ACC Coastal+5.7
5. Pac-12 North+5.6
6. Pac-12 South+5.5
7. Big Ten West+3.1
8. MWC Mountain+2.5
9. SEC East+1.7
T10. AAC West+0.4
T10. MAC West+0.4
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

link
 
hokiehead said:
good a place as any for this one. SB nation's ranking of CFB divisions

intent behind this post is to mock the SEC East, but I'll beat my chest over the ACC while I'm at it.

1. SEC West+15.1
2. ACC Atlantic+9.5
3. Big Ten East+9.2
4. ACC Coastal+5.7
5. Pac-12 North+5.6
6. Pac-12 South+5.5
7. Big Ten West+3.1
8. MWC Mountain+2.5
9. SEC East+1.7
T10. AAC West+0.4
T10. MAC West+0.4
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
link
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I'm sure you've answered this before but if CU played VT, who are you rooting for? Think carefully before you answer.
 
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