All of the above is my understanding, too.
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8/10 Newcomers Practice Report
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All of the above is my understanding, too.
Big Hawk has GOT to get this QB situation fixed up in the next recruiting cycles. I'm not throwing in the towel on the guys we have (I still like Hansen and Cody a lot), but we have to start getting some legitimate talent into that pipeline.
Edit** - I like Nick Hirschman as well... but our QB situation has felt jury-rigged 2 of the last 3 years.
Edit** - I like Nick Hirschman as well... but our QB situation has felt jury-rigged 2 of the last 3 years.
buffsyko
Club Member
Correct :thumbsup:
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
Hirschman is a good start. But I'd like to see at least one more QB this cycle.
buffsyko
Club Member
So would I, a legit blue-chipper.
LilBunky
Guest
Oh yes, Master of the posts, at a stunning 230+. I shall bow down to your knowledge-ness!
My point was not to quibble with the reporting, but rather to express concern that undue negativity was set forth, regarding the singular performance of an individual who is a mere tyro in the world of college football! Yet, further, which performance occurred, not during the rigors of a scrimmage effort, but rather as part of a simple drill or exercise.
GET IT ?? Oh, and that's MISTER Moe-ron to you!
I'd love it if Stanford looked awful this year and we were able to flip Kain Colter. Colter and Spond would give us 2 great athletes trying out at QB and 1 guy in Hirschman who is prototypical for the Kiesau/Tedford system.
I don't think we sniff a blue chip QB this cycle. 2011 cycle we should be in on one if we have a big year. It will also help that Cody will be out of eligibility since that ends the negative recruiting we've been fighting from other programs ("you'll never beat out the coach's son" B.S.).
I don't think we sniff a blue chip QB this cycle. 2011 cycle we should be in on one if we have a big year. It will also help that Cody will be out of eligibility since that ends the negative recruiting we've been fighting from other programs ("you'll never beat out the coach's son" B.S.).
buffsyko
Club Member
oh yes, master of the posts, at a stunning 230+. I shall bow down to your knowledge-ness!
My point was not to quibble with the reporting, but rather to express concern that undue negativity was set forth, regarding the singular performance of an individual who is a mere tyro in the world of college football! Yet, further, which performance occurred, not during the rigors of a scrimmage effort, but rather as part of a simple drill or exercise.
get it ?? oh, and that's mister moe-ron to you!
ka-booom
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
I'm sure Hawk is still in Hinder's ear. You never know.
buffsyko
Club Member
Could be, hopefully we start and finish strong and maybe change his mind.
:stupid:
Usually I'd say so, but I believe Hinder's very solid for Cal. Actually, I think he was a Cal lock from day one and just liked the recruiting attention so he kept things open for a bit. And I just don't see Kiesau going that hard trying to poach a QB from Tedford given the relationship there. If we were to flip Hinder, it would most likely have to come off of a soft sell, imo, and something dramatic would need to change on Austin's part.
But you never know, as Valdez stated. Kasa was pretty solid for Florida as well.
Not that I'm against getting some talent in the pipeline but I'm not exactly worried about how well a guy does when he steps on campus. I'm not an expert on talent but I think we have some decent players on campus. I really would like to see the staff develop the talent they have. The way you get the blue chip guys to come is to prove that you can make players out of the people you have.
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
I'm hoping he see's the things CU has to offer. Close to home, and not that much depth at QB. I know he's a proud kid, but he has a better shot at getting more PT here then at Cal.
'09 Allan Bridgford 4* Position Ranking: 10
'08 Beau Sweeney3* Position Ranking: 13
'07 Brock Mansion 3* Position Ranking: 11
'06 Kevin Riley 4* Position Ranking: 6
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
Maybe this is Nick Kasa pt. 2? I thought Nick was a UF lock since his family was from Florida. But Hawkins pulled it off.
Who knows? I think it's pretty unlikely, but I could see a scenario where CU has a big season and Hinder has a great time coming down to Folsom a couple times and staying over with Alex Wood. What would make a HUGE difference, I think, would be if Beau Sweeney won the QB battle at some point this year (post-spring depth chart has Riley, Mansion and Sweeney even). Since he's a freshman, that would mean a few years before PT was even a possibility at Cal.
The major difference I see with the Hinder and Kasa recruitments is that Kasa actually talked us up from the beginning. He really liked Hawk throughout the process, we were always #2 behind Florida. No doubt it was huge getting him to flip from Florida, but it was not completely out of left field because he had always liked us. As far as I can tell, we have barely been on Hinder's radar aside from 1-2 visits he made to Boulder. Just my take.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Any more insight on the newcomers practice?
navybuff
Member
LilBunky
Guest
I'm not seeing the value in Hinder to lament his chioce. For all his physical tools (except his weight, 175 lbs at 6'4"???), he has yet to dominate at the HS level and its not like Steamboat Spgs. is a doormat! They play some real decent HS FB there, but Hinder hasn't stood head and shoulders above his contemporaries on the field. Why not?
And for all you "But, he was so good in the elite camps" types, so was Cody! You now gonna take back all the bad stuff you've laid on him?
The Guest
Guest
I don't remember Valdez saying anything bad about Cody.
Clark is def #3 from the snaps he was getting. He just didn't look good. He will get better tho, he sure as hell looks the part, and he throws a damn nice deep ball. It's the short ones where his release is really apparent.
navybuff
Member
My source said Clark looks like he is 5th from his performance.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
Well-Known Member
Wouldn't it be in Evans' best interest to redshirt in 2009 anyway? I will start to think about Clark Evans next year or the year after. I'm much more interested in Cody Hawkins and Tyler Hansen at the moment.
buffsyko
Club Member
That should put the whammy on the evans/chuck norris posts. :smile:
Yes. The immediate future of this team is tied to Cody and Hansen.
navybuff
Member
No doubt about it, H & H will have to deliver the goods for the Buffs to be successful.
It's starting to look more and more like something other than an official transcript is keeping Simmons off the field.
nervous. very nervous. Official transcripts don't take this long. Yes, they can be a pain in the ass. But if this was all that was keeping Simmons off the field, CU would be raising holy hell with the CC over this and it would have been resolved by now.
Something ain't right.
nervous. very nervous. Official transcripts don't take this long. Yes, they can be a pain in the ass. But if this was all that was keeping Simmons off the field, CU would be raising holy hell with the CC over this and it would have been resolved by now.
Something ain't right.