I know Viska finished this past weekend, anything been said about his shoulder, yet?
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Air Force September 14
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68buffs
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I was at that game and it was the only time I have ever been ashamed of being a CU fan. The kids weren't hippies lol they were intense fans just like last Saturday. The behavior that day though was helped by the play up to the game, lots of anti military news coverage, tough games with the zoomies previously. Really f*cked up day, one I try to forget.Interesting article. I didn't realize why it has been so long since CU played AFA.
Give peace a chance as Air Force football returns to Boulder | David Ramsey
Air Force is, finally, renewing its football rivalry with the University of Colorado. A look at the chaos in Boulder that ended the series in 1974, and a look atgazette.com
Rob DeVere
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I was there, too! All I remember was that the whole Cadet student body had a well-deserved reputation as arroganr a-holes that rivaled Nebraska fans at their worst! That attitude certainly didn't inspire respect from the CU crowd! The bad anti-war/anti-military stuff didn't really start until late '69, early 1970. I was on campus then, I remember it very well.
ahoelsken
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45 years ago. Different time, and frankly one long in the past. I hope the AFA people who come up have a blast, and I hope we start to play when we both can fit it in.
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Are AFA fans prone to talk trash about CSU? Asking for a friend.
ChillyBuff
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Military or ‘fighter’? I feel like this is too open ended.
Depends. Some are excellent guys. Some still have the stick up their ass from the Academy. Want to know why PHX is the least desirable base for First Officers? It isn’t the heat.
And it isn’t about the ability to fly the aircraft. They are fine with that. It’s basic common sense in the civilian world they lack.
We have a lot of it in our FOM. Take simple ****, make it hard. The Air Force way.
And the sane AF guys will say the exact same thing.
ltcpilot
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Graduated back in that era in 1977 from USAFA, spent 20 years as a fighter pilot and now about to retire after 22 years at United Airlines. Been blessed to do both jobs and I have always managed to land the airplane versus coming home a different undesired way, so in my book that's a plus plus win win.
Arrogant and chip on our shoulder? Some background may help that assessment. Most importantly especially back in those days there was always animosity between, as we called them, the long-hairs in Boulder and us Cadets especially when we went up north and were able to find girlfriends which really pissed off the natives. I do remember vividly drinking copious amounts that 3.2 Coors beer and, even though I was the Squadron foosball Champion, I was no match going against the professional foosball players who were students at Boulder who always kicked my butt no matter how good I was.
The chip on the shoulder comes from a lot of factors to include the Youth of the Air Force Academy at that time. Remember our first class graduated in 1959 so we were always the ugly stepchild when it came to the Army and Navy Academy and were treated as such. Trash-talking became big between the service Academies and I think very similar at times with other schools who never took us seriously. That may not be right or wrong for us to have acted that way but yet that's what young kids do.
There's always jawing and maybe some bad blood between us and CSU fans simply because the Front Range rivalry. Very similar as far as Wyoming however I think folks my age have a mutual respect for both schools. Worst fans I've ever been around was BYU fans when playing together in the WAC and Mountain West Conference (obviously they thought they were God's gift and the chosen one in both conferences and were shocked when our Falcons occasionally beat them....) with Utah fans being close seconds.
Ringer
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I'm too lazy to look it up, but there was some article several months ago in a popular site about potential "trap games" for various college football teams, and AFA vs. Colorado was one of those listed. That being said, Colorado -3.5 is ridiculous and one should take Colorado and give the points, if one is bettin' man...
Big Jim
WTF?
Well, AFA had last week off so they are probably not too worried about it being a trap game for them. CU OTOH had their potential trap game last Saturday so no more worries about it on the schedule.
I don't recall CU having to deal with three rivalry games in a row. Air Force will be giving CU its best shot and if you watched their MWC pre-season video, they talked about how much they were looking forward to playing CU.
68buffs
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Then you remember the chants that had nothing to do with football. It wasn't anything to do with their fans, their team. Like I said it was the only time I felt shame to be a fan. There was no excuse for the behavior of CU fans that day, the cadets had zero to do what was going on at the time. It wasn't really the students but the alumni that took it overboard, that is where I felt the shame. Saturday is a new day and it's going to be great to watch and pull for the BUFFS to stampede those awesome f*ckers from down south. One cruddy day will never define CU and the fans the people who come to CU may not be perfect, may not have the largest base, however we are the best mother f*ckers who are out there. For you young people CU students and fans have stayed with them through crap that was worse than the last 15 years WE REALLY ARE THE BEST
Ringer
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Senor Jalapeño--
AFA is not a "rivalry game", simply due to the fact that the teams have not played each other since the early days of the Brady Bunch. I am a bit leery of this game, especially because Vegas is only giving AFA 3.5 points currently, and because they have a strange offense that they run well, and the altitude and overall disciplined playing will not be factors. I also have confidence that Tucker will have the team prepared. Will be personally flying in to attend this game and am expecting a victory, for sure.
Big Jim
WTF?
AFA is not a rivalry, not in any way. Marketing to sell tickets for a not so attractive game.
Ralfie
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Aw man I miss Cosmos. Dollar bigass slices at 2am after boozin at K’s China rooftop? Nothin better.
Ringer
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Those bigass Cosmos slices cost more than a dollar now, but they are still very tasty, affordable, and available until 2 a.m., on the Hill and across the street from Willville.
Our offense should light up the scoreboard, AFA is not great against the pass.
Our defense... might get torched. They are going to have to edge contain MUCH better than they have in the past 2 games.
Welcome! Enjoy the game on Saturday. Hint on how to get free beer at any tailgate: "Can anyone around here tell me where I can find a team that kicked the **** out of Nebraska two years in a row!"
Last time we played an option was a John Blake coached Oklahoma team in Norman in 1998? It has been a long time.
At least Tyson Summers and Tucker have coached against it in the past.
To state the sort of obvious, tackling will be the key for both defenses. Just watching the AFA-Crest (oops, sorry, Colgate) highlights, AFA gets blockers ahead of whoever's running the ball, leaving only one guy to make the tackle. So, either get off the blocks or that one guy must make the tackle.
AF DBs are going to play zone and try to keep everything in front of them. Can they tackle 'viska? They are certainly going to need more than one DB to do so.
AF DBs are going to play zone and try to keep everything in front of them. Can they tackle 'viska? They are certainly going to need more than one DB to do so.
Good points. CU's players are going to have to tackle well in this one and if AF's DBs are playing zone, that means a chance for some bombs like the flea flicker against the Corn. Viska must be looking forward to this game to jump start his season.
darth-horax
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I live in the springs and have been to a ton of AFA games.
The way I see it, this is a troubling game, but CU should be able to cover that spread.
AFA does some smart things nobody else really does. They are ok wiht punting, for example. They don't look at hte game as a failed drive if they punt...they use the punt to simpy give their D a favorable position for a stop so when they get the ball back they'll be in a better position than they were. Very disciplined.
They will run all day long, waiting for hte CB's and Safeties to sneak closer to the line. Once they're asleep, BOOM, a 65 yard TD pass over the top to some very fast WR's. Happens ALL THE TIME, no matter who htey are playing.
I think CU has the advantage with depth, but AFA has some great athletes. I see AFA getting their points, but eventually CU's depth and power attack will take it's toll.
I see it ending as CU: 34, AFA: 17. The second half will be easier for CU as it has been all year.
For hte record, I think AFA is a much better team than CSU this season.
The QB does not look scared at all:
The way I see it, this is a troubling game, but CU should be able to cover that spread.
AFA does some smart things nobody else really does. They are ok wiht punting, for example. They don't look at hte game as a failed drive if they punt...they use the punt to simpy give their D a favorable position for a stop so when they get the ball back they'll be in a better position than they were. Very disciplined.
They will run all day long, waiting for hte CB's and Safeties to sneak closer to the line. Once they're asleep, BOOM, a 65 yard TD pass over the top to some very fast WR's. Happens ALL THE TIME, no matter who htey are playing.
I think CU has the advantage with depth, but AFA has some great athletes. I see AFA getting their points, but eventually CU's depth and power attack will take it's toll.
I see it ending as CU: 34, AFA: 17. The second half will be easier for CU as it has been all year.
For hte record, I think AFA is a much better team than CSU this season.
The QB does not look scared at all:
Is Wells healthy? That’s important IMO. I expect more 2 OLB set like used against CSU and less Star this week.
Adam mentioned that Taylor would in more of a traditional OLB role this week.
Disco Buff
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This makes a ton of sense, fast kid who tackles well should really help handle the option
My fear is that he is too small. They may run right him. His discipline has improved. He will need it Saturday. He did not play in this role vs CSU.