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vinniew_11 said:
Did people honestly expect him to pull in the top of top assistants? As a first time HC? At a school that went 5-7?
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My reading comprehension might not be so good, but are you asking if we expected the guy who said there was no reason or excuse for why we couldn’t win a national championship to hire a very high level coaching staff?

Can you confirm if that is your question or not?

I feel like the OC and offensive line coach were solid hires. I’m in wait and see mode but the rest of the staff has been head scratching, so far. I’m pretty underwhelmed by them.

I’m rooting hard for MT, he’s the first coaching hire I’ve believed in since Barnett, but he’s definitely not off to the start I expected

This is just idle speculation but if these hires are because rick George wouldn’t give MT the budget to hire the guys he wanted, that is a VERY bad look for George. Might as well have kept MacIntyre if that’s the case. You can’t hire a high level coordinator from a top program and then hamstring him on who he’s allowed to hire. If Tucker flames out as a result of that scenario, no high level coordinator will give the CU head coach position a look for a very long time
 
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DrunkPanda said:
My reading comprehension might not be so good, but are you asking if we expected the guy who said there was no reason or excuse for why we couldn’t win a national championship to hire a very high level coaching staff?

Can you confirm if that is your question or not?

I feel like the OC and offensive line coach were solid hires. I’m in wait and see mode but the rest of the staff has been head scratching, so far. I’m pretty underwhelmed by them
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Sure he can have those expectations. But then there is reality. Most ace coaches are on good staffs on good teams. Why would they leave?
 
vinniew_11 said:
Did people honestly expect him to pull in the top of top assistants? As a first time HC? At a school that went 5-7?
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Top of the top no. Some guys who have texas and poly ties yes. Saying top of the top vs hires like summers and Tillman, come on.
 
Buffnik said:
You know we're talking about a guy hired for the Defensive Analyst position at CU, right? We did not even have "Analyst" jobs in 2018. This is a significant expansion of the support staff that I thought we had all been wanting and hoping for when HCMT was hired?
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Yes, I know who and what you are talking about. I am pointing out we got a great, up and coming AC as our HC, but have yet to officially announce anybody that the CFB world has heard of as a new addition to the staff. Cadillac HC, Yugo AC's, those are the optics. And yes, it is something to bitch about. If and when CU posts a 7-5 or 8-4 record in the next year or two, I will be ecstatic. For now, I go with the notion HCMT knows more than I do and he likes the staff he is building.
 
leftybuff said:
Yes, I know who and what you are talking about. I am pointing out we got a great, up and coming AC as our HC, but have yet to officially announce anybody that the CFB world has heard of as a new addition to the staff. Cadillac HC, Yugo AC's, those are the optics. And yes, it is something to bitch about. If and when CU posts a 7-5 or 8-4 record in the next year or two, I will be ecstatic. For now, I go with the notion HCMT knows more than I do and he likes the staff he is building.
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Our new DC is a former D1 head coach (G5), our DL coach was an ACC DC last year, our OL coach was an ACC OC last year, and our OC was a very successful OC in the B1G. But no one has heard of them? Maybe awareness is skewed because they weren't Big 12 or Pac-12 guys? Maybe we should consider that western football has sucked in recent years and it's better to hire from outside our region just like Oregon has done to rebuild and re-invent itself?
 
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Buffnik said:
Our new DC is a former D1 head coach (G5), our DL coach was an ACC DC last year, our OL coach was an ACC OC last year, and our OC was a very successful OC in the B1G. But no one has heard of them? Maybe awareness is skewed because they weren't Big 12 or Pac-12 guys? Maybe we should consider that western football has sucked in recent years and it's better to hire from outside our region just like Oregon has done to rebuild and re-invent itself?
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CU has announced the OL and DL coaches? I guessed I missed that. Actually, I do not think they have, which is why I characterized it that way in my post.

I am leery. Perhaps 12 years of dog**** FB has jaded me, but RG set the bar at NC, not me. The general gist of the posts around here was HCMT has an excellent record, I agree BTW, and would assemble a kick ass staff. Something MikMac was unable or unwilling to do.

Three retentions, they make sense to me, excepting DH, but he is a legend, so no worries.

An OC and DC from the bottom rungs of HCMT's last gig? Underwhelming. Perhaps they will set the world on fire, I truly hope they do. Pointing to Summers gig at Ga. Southern is hardly a kudo. He did not even last two seasons. While they both have some, limited P5 experience as coordinators, they are not the seasoned AC's that one would expect, well at least I would have expected, when the bar is set at NC by RG.

Personally, I will be content with 8-4, the occasional push into the CCG and yearly bowl games.

Perhaps someone can direct my attention to the last nationally relevant CFB program that hired a pair of QC guys as coordinators and then blew up. I'll hang up and listen.
 
leftybuff said:
CU has announced the OL and DL coaches? I guessed I missed that. Actually, I do not think they have, which is why I characterized it that way in my post.

I am leery. Perhaps 12 years of dog**** FB has jaded me, but RG set the bar at NC, not me. The general gist of the posts around here was HCMT has an excellent record, I agree BTW, and would assemble a kick ass staff. Something MikMac was unable or unwilling to do.

Three retentions, they make sense to me, excepting DH, but he is a legend, so no worries.

An OC and DC from the bottom rungs of HCMT's last gig? Underwhelming. Perhaps they will set the world on fire, I truly hope they do. Pointing to Summers gig at Ga. Southern is hardly a kudo. He did not even last two seasons. While they both have some, limited P5 experience as coordinators, they are not the seasoned AC's that one would expect, well at least I would have expected, when the bar is set at NC by RG.

Personally, I will be content with 8-4, the occasional push into the CCG and yearly bowl games.

Perhaps someone can direct my attention to the last nationally relevant CFB program that hired a pair of QC guys as coordinators and then blew up. I'll hang up and listen.
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The issue is, not a lot of CFB teams have QC guys that were OC/DC in that position. Frankly, not a lot of teams even have that position. Those big boy programs are starting something new, bringing in quality eyes in a non AC role. The whole rich getting richer.
 
As I said before, the offensive staff has been upgraded in a major way. Johnson and Kapolovich are big upgrades while Chev is more suited to be a WR coach. If the TE coach is a true recruiter, that side of the ball looks good.

Even with Tucker's defensive background, seems like the reaches are on the defensive staff.
 
leftybuff said:
CU has announced the OL and DL coaches? I guessed I missed that. Actually, I do not think they have, which is why I characterized it that way in my post.

I am leery. Perhaps 12 years of dog**** FB has jaded me, but RG set the bar at NC, not me. The general gist of the posts around here was HCMT has an excellent record, I agree BTW, and would assemble a kick ass staff. Something MikMac was unable or unwilling to do.

Three retentions, they make sense to me, excepting DH, but he is a legend, so no worries.

An OC and DC from the bottom rungs of HCMT's last gig? Underwhelming. Perhaps they will set the world on fire, I truly hope they do. Pointing to Summers gig at Ga. Southern is hardly a kudo. He did not even last two seasons. While they both have some, limited P5 experience as coordinators, they are not the seasoned AC's that one would expect, well at least I would have expected, when the bar is set at NC by RG.

Personally, I will be content with 8-4, the occasional push into the CCG and yearly bowl games.

Perhaps someone can direct my attention to the last nationally relevant CFB program that hired a pair of QC guys as coordinators and then blew up. I'll hang up and listen.
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Alabama.
 
Well, I think we all want the same thing. I recall all the way back to the "home run" hire of 2006. I guess my patience for the next guy is low. My buff colored glasses have lost some of their luster. I will wait and see the outcome of 2019 before commenting further...you all know more than me.
 
Duff Man said:
As I said before, the offensive staff has been upgraded in a major way. Johnson and Kapolovich are big upgrades while Chev is more suited to be a WR coach. If the TE coach is a true recruiter, that side of the ball looks good.

Even with Tucker's defensive background, seems like the reaches are on the defensive staff.
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I agree. Defensive side reads to me as "this is going to be the Mel Tucker defense and he wants guys he trusts to implement it" rather than it being a case of bringing in guys who will decide on system, techniques and schemes.

But I think that's appropriate if I look at it as I look at other programs where I'm an impartial observer instead of emotionally invested. For example, I look at UCLA's offense and say that it's Chip Kelly's offense and the coordinator + assistants just need to be able to implement and teach what he wants done while knowing what to look for in recruiting to fit it. If I look at Mel Tucker as a Chip Kelly for defense then it does change my perceptions of what is needed on that side with coaching hires.

He needs more than Els in terms of CA ties with the defensive recruiting, though. I really want that last defensive hire to be a west coast recruiter.
 
Buffnik said:
He needs more than Els in terms of CA ties with the defensive recruiting, though. I really want that last defensive hire to be a west coast recruiter.
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I am hoping this is the reason for the vetting process taking longer than expected. MT is looking for a unique West Coast/Texas recruiter that can/will properly implement his scheme.
 
Looks like we are getting the S&C coach from Marshall who mentored under Georgia's current S&C Director.

Marshall Bio - Day, 28, joined the Herd after one year as an assistant on the Cincinnati Bengals’ strength and conditioning staff. He was recommended by Scott Sinclair, Day’s predecessor who in three years transformed the Herd strength and conditioning philosophy during a run of three straight seasons of 10 or more wins by Coach Doc Holliday’s team.
Day and Sinclair – who moved from MU to the strength and conditioning director’s role at Georgia – previously worked together at UCF under veteran strength coach Ed Ellis.
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Edit: Guess it could possibly be for another sport as well
 
leftybuff said:
CU has announced the OL and DL coaches? I guessed I missed that. Actually, I do not think they have, which is why I characterized it that way in my post.

I am leery. Perhaps 12 years of dog**** FB has jaded me, but RG set the bar at NC, not me. The general gist of the posts around here was HCMT has an excellent record, I agree BTW, and would assemble a kick ass staff. Something MikMac was unable or unwilling to do.

Three retentions, they make sense to me, excepting DH, but he is a legend, so no worries.

An OC and DC from the bottom rungs of HCMT's last gig? Underwhelming. Perhaps they will set the world on fire, I truly hope they do. Pointing to Summers gig at Ga. Southern is hardly a kudo. He did not even last two seasons. While they both have some, limited P5 experience as coordinators, they are not the seasoned AC's that one would expect, well at least I would have expected, when the bar is set at NC by RG.

Personally, I will be content with 8-4, the occasional push into the CCG and yearly bowl games.

Perhaps someone can direct my attention to the last nationally relevant CFB program that hired a pair of QC guys as coordinators and then blew up. I'll hang up and listen.
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Totally agree with this.
 
leftybuff said:
CU has announced the OL and DL coaches? I guessed I missed that. Actually, I do not think they have, which is why I characterized it that way in my post.
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Tucker Adds Two More To His First Staff

Chris Kapilovic (pronounced kuh-pil-oh-vick) will coach the offensive line and also serve as the run game coordinator, while Jimmy Brumbaugh will tutor the defensive linemen.

Kapilovic, 50, comes to CU from the University of North Carolina, where he spent the previous seven seasons (2012-18) coaching the offensive line under head coach Larry Fedora. He was also its run game coordinator his first two seasons there, and then was the co-offensive coordinator for the 2014 and 2015 seasons. For his last three seasons on the Tar Heel staff, he was the associate head coach and offensive coordinator along with his offensive line coaching duties.
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Brumbaugh, 42, joins the CU staff from the University of Maryland, where he had served as the co-defensive coordinator and defensive line coach for the previous two seasons. He had spent the prior four seasons at the University of Kentucky (2013-16), establishing himself as one of the top defensive line coaches in the country. He has also served as an assistant coach at Louisiana State, Louisiana Tech and Syracuse.
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Looking at what could be coming to fruition with Tucker now having a defensive analyst position and adding support staff to the S&C staff. Rick George might have given him a solid budget for his assistants even with the MM buyout, but Tucker is choosing to go with guys he knows that might not be what he eventually wants his staff to look like. Until the MM buyout is paid off/gone, Tucker might be thinking it’s of better use to put some of that budget towards these support positions and then will look to make a big(ger) hires in 3 years? Just my opinion but if he’s spreading it out among more than just 10 positions, would make the defensive staff hires more understandable at least.
 
Bread said:
Looking at what could be coming to fruition with Tucker now having a defensive analyst position and adding support staff to the S&C staff. Rick George might have given him a solid budget for his assistants even with the MM buyout, but Tucker is choosing to go with guys he knows that might not be what he eventually wants his staff to look like. Until the MM buyout is paid off/gone, Tucker might be thinking it’s of better use to put some of that budget towards these support positions and then will look to make a big(ger) hires in 3 years? Just my opinion but if he’s spreading it out among more than just 10 positions, would make the defensive staff hires more understandable at least.
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Also, I don't believe that the support staff has to go to the Regents because they aren't multi-year contracts. I suspect they're building the infrastructure out within the organization now and then we will see the pay increases in 2 years once the team is winning (and FHCMM is fully off the books). And my tangential experience with university and government organizations is that once positions are created and given a code number they quickly become set in stone as jobs within the organization into the future. As long as the AD doesn't have a budget shortfall that causes it to ask the university for money, no one will ever question those jobs and the salaries paid for them into the future.
 
Austin Cameron said:
Traveres tillman db coach. What yall know bout him?
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All-ACC a couple years at GA Tech, NFL for almost a decade and then a QC guy for Tucker at UGA.

Also, his wife is an exec on the design & promotion team for Diddy's apparel company so she'd been in CA a lot while Tillman was working in GA. (This per a UGA site write-up I'd found.)
 
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