My personal experience with alcohol suggests that the impact of intoxication the evening before a game would have a much more profound impact on the physical tasks a player is expected to perform than on the mental, emotional and motivational tasks coaches are expected to perform. Legal activities conducted by people on their own time in their own homes are their own business. JT didn't cross a line getting ****-faced; the line was crossed, allegedly, when he committed violence against another.So it's okay if the coaches get intoxicated the evening before a game but what about the players? Isn't there a reason players stay in hotels the night before even a home game?
Not buying that at all.
I hope MM and RG show some compassion and keep him but mandate that he gets the requisite help. I'm a fan of second chances and MM has handed out a few since he's been here.
Guys, innocent before proven guilty remember?
Maybe it is just a coincidence she waited until the very day Leavitt was named D coordinator at Oregon, putting Joe in contention for a promotion, to file this. Even though it had been going on since Feb 2015.
This is just one side of the story (okay, hopefully).
Innocence until proven guilty, and beyond a reasonable doubt are good standards to use when you're talking about calling down the full force and power of the government to take away the fundamental rights of a human being. They are good and necessary checks against government power.
In other words, they limit the power the government has to take away fundamental human rights, like the liberty to not be behind bars.
They are not good standards by which to decide who is or is not a good representative of your institution or good role model and mentor for young men.
He needs to be gone yesterday.
Let me get this straight...she was choked, thrown around, had her hair pulled and he bit her and she's called police and nothing ever happened? Either the cops aren't doing their jobs or she's way over-sensationalizing this story.
DV is serious ****, cops take you for anything. I broke up with my ex because she became an alcoholic lunatic. She started breaking and throwing everything and scratched the **** out of my neck. She went outside to smoke on the patio and I locked her out for 5 minutes. She called the cops (I didn't know) and they showed up shortly after and arrested me. So yeah, I don't buy he beat the **** out of her and the cops let it go.
Exactly why innocent until proven guilty is more than just a safeguard, and it absolutely applies to ever criminal allegation, without qualification.On the flip side, my buddy was (is) in the process of a divorce. His wife flipped out and started hitting him so he packed some items as she was hitting him and left. Soon gets surrounded by 6 police cars. Guns drawn, is pulled out. She pulls up and starts spouting all these claims of thing he supposedly did. After about 45 minutes my friend is released...and she gets cuffed and taken in.
Not always the case of course. But there is false claims laid against people all the time too.
Exactly why innocent until proven guilty is more than just a safeguard, and it absolutely applies to ever criminal allegation, without qualification.
Yeah I'm just thinking about this from the criminal implications. Unless the report was almost entirely fabricated, Tumpkin should, and probably will be fired from CU. Can't have those kind of allegations against a person in a position of trust with "kids".Inside the judicial system, yes.
Businesses can and do make hiring and firing decisions all the time without enlisting the help of the courts.
You serious?? Are you prepared to give similar second chances to every player who roughs up his girlfriend? If alcohol is an issue, you can offer help without keeping him on staff - he should be fired yesterday.I hope MM and RG show some compassion and keep him but mandate that he gets the requisite help. I'm a fan of second chances and MM has handed out a few since he's been here.
Anyone know what the standard of evidence is in Colorado for a judge to grant a temporary restraining order? Is an accusation enough or does there need to be some evidence beyond that?
You have to remember Boulder PD is kinda sketchy at best and he is a coach at CU.
Let me get this straight...she was choked, thrown around, had her hair pulled and he bit her and she's called police and nothing ever happened? Either the cops aren't doing their jobs or she's way over-sensationalizing this story.
DV is serious ****, cops take you for anything. I broke up with my ex because she became an alcoholic lunatic. She started breaking and throwing everything and scratched the **** out of my neck. She went outside to smoke on the patio and I locked her out for 5 minutes. She called the cops (I didn't know) and they showed up shortly after and arrested me. So yeah, I don't buy he beat the **** out of her and the cops let it go.
There's also the severity of the claim. Patrick Roy apparently ripped a door off its hinges in a confrontation with his wife. Physically intimidating, but not actually physically abusive (IIRC, that was a long time ago and my
Memory of the situation is a little fuzzy). What Tumpkin is accused of is a whole lot worse. Had he just torn a door off its hinges, we wouldn't be talking about dismissing him. As it stands, I'm disgusted by the reports I'm reading. I don't want him associated with Colorado Football.
A friend from HS who is cop in Miami has numerous times arrested both parties in DV calls. She'd look for any signs of a physical altercation.
No. Broomfield County has it's own court.Broomfield PD.
That's where all the incidents took place, according to the article. She filed in Boulder County.
Does Broomfield still use Boulder County judicial system even though they split off as a separate county several years ago?
A friend from HS who is cop in Miami has numerous times arrested both parties in DV calls. She'd look for any signs of a physical altercation.