To be fair, this is a pretty big networking weekend. The AFCA conference is not a bad place to be when you are looking for coaches.
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All in one Tumpkin DV allegation thread - fed judge dismisses lawsuit against CU
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To be fair, this is a pretty big networking weekend. The AFCA conference is not a bad place to be when you are looking for coaches.
chitownbuff
Club Member
This is where I struggle with this as well. It seems like a lot of work for very little cred to national (fan) attention and recruiting impact. I could care less what national writers think. If it makes CU "cool" again or generates interest amongst interested coaches, then it might sway my current thinking (get your damn house in order first and foremost).
That's a good point too, I'd forgot about the AFCA deal.
chitownbuff
Club Member
That's a good point. I haven't seen any benefits to date, but I'll hold judgement until after the convention is over. For me, it's just counterintuitive for such a team first guy to be spending his time in the spotlight when the rest of Buff nation is in panic mode.
Terrible analogy. With Duke LaCrosse, there were strippers hired for a college party and recorded verbal racist remarks from the players. true, there was no rape proven, but incorrect to say say there was nothing for the press to be digging into.
Deleted member 807
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Do you know what would be awesome? Getting an announcement on a splashy new DC who would be involved with making some reasonable judgements about the Tumpkin situation by the end of the month.
This makes me sad
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Don't care. You can cry for the future of our society, I just want to win a conference championship.
OUBuff
American
So, your complaint is with my example or you believe that if something is in the press there must be SOMETHING that the accused is guilty of... so punish him anyway?
I guess I just think it may be worth waiting to weigh him before he gets fired.
outlandinfan
Well-Known Member
Because?
Because the administration (in the recent past) and a notable % of the "Fan Base" are willing to throw coaches under the bus based on heresay and allegations.
Need?
The corrupt D. A. Mike Nifong was as bad as the Nazi judges under Hitler, and he should have been sent to prison for 25 years. He knew the allegations were false and that there was no case. He was up for re-election and the filing of charges was 100% politically motivated. All of the players were exonerated and got big monetary settlements from the "university" but IMO the settlements should have been much bigger. Duke Lacrosse is the biggest attempted purposeful miscarriage of justice in modern U.S. history, and I wish the school had been sued into financial insolvency. I lost all respect for the hoops coach K when he stayed there after this.
The school colluded with a corrupt D.A. and a lying sociopath stripper to try and take down three innocent young men. All of the 80 some odd Duke "professors" who immediately signed the manifesto condemning the players, the program, and the coach, should have been fired. You do know that the stripper who made the false allegations is in prison now, convicted for an unrelated murder, right.
Again, watch the ESPN 30 for 30, and read the book that was written about it.
"responsibilty?"
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
PAHI, youre involved in the legal system in some way aren't you?
No, I do work with attorneys all of the time but not in the area of Criminal Law.
I dunno Nik. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not "triggered", I just have along memory.
It's still Boulder County and it's still a PC element of the CU fan base. On the CU admin side, I do kind of trust RG and MM to be measured and rational about this.
Deleted member 807
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Looking forward to the basis for this assertion.
Seems like this may be a situation where familiarity breeds contempt.
Besides your experience reading about Duke Lacross, watching the 30 for 30 about Duke, and personal observations about CU, are there other contenders?
How does a coaching job at CU stack up against UAB? Grambling? Rutgers? Idaho? Montana State? UMass? Indiana State? Incarnate Word? Rice?
Seems to me having CU's facilities, TV exposure, and conference affiliation would be a plus. The opportunity to work under the COTY and Rick George doesn't sound as miserable as the environment in Berkeley. Even conference mates Arizona, Oregon State, and Washington State each have their issues. CU is about as good as ASU or Utah.
Hell, even University of Texas and their back stabbing boosters isn't exactly college Valhalla. "Cesspool" was the word used by Herbstreet. The politics at Baylor, BYU, Norte Dame, and the service academies each come with neuances.
It would be tough to coach in the shadow of CU at CSU or UNC, where resources and TV exposure are limited.
All in all, CU isn't a bad place for a coach.
Why do you feel the need to say it is my question?
It serves no good purpose other than to stroke your own narcissism...
We'll, they killed an innocent Ethel Rosenberg, but I guess filing charges against some douchebag lacrosse players was just as bad. Get a grip, man.
aik
Well-Known Member
The direction of this thread has as expected taken the appearance of a Family Circus parkour map. Let's hope Coach Tumpkin and his girlfriend get the counseling resources available to them and that MacIntyre and the university respond consistently with the evidence made available from this incident. We have a defensive staff to hire to close a recruiting cycle with or without JT in the fold. At this point inviting DrunkPanda to join this discussion would give a better chance of steering it back on track than what's devolving here while we sit around waiting to hear new facts.
No narcissism here. Some Albuffers get puzzled as to why it's hard to bring first tier coaches into this program. I think the history at CU has some effect. The new JT stuff and the partial rush to judgment just brought it all back. No big deal.
No, I have no complaints there at all.
I understand all of that.
I followed the case closely as it happened.
I don't need to or want to see the 30 for 30 piece again.
And it was a terrible analogy.
Not sure what point you were trying to make with all that.
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cu62nu36
fascist tool
Simply stated, yes. Mercy and compassion for guilty offenders that have accepted responsibility, accountability, and have gone through a process of rehabilitation without re-offending. Not sure if ANY PART of this applies to Tumpkin.
I'm also not sure if my view(retaining a convicted offender) is realistic given that this would be a lengthy process to go through. Just my opinion, obviously contrary to most others I've seen here.
Nothing more from me.