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Any guesses on camp secret regarding offense?

McBuff24

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I have seen it mentioned specifically that our new offense is keeping part of its' scheme secret, especially regarding the use of tight ends. The media has hinted at it and Clay Patterson mentioned it as well. As long as we're not throwing TCU a bone, any guesses out there to what this could be? Lots of tight ends in the back field, aka a fullback? Wishbone sets (chuckles)?

FWIW, I do think it would be cool to see some innovation here!
 
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McBuff24 said:
I know seen it mentioned specifically that our new offense is keeping part of its' scheme secret, especially regarding the use of tight ends. The media has hinted at it and Clay Patterson mentioned it as well. As long as we're not throwing TCU a bone, any guesses out there to what this could be? Lots of tight ends in the back field, aka a fullback? Wishbone sets (chuckles)?

FWIW, I do think it would be cool to see some innovation here!
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I do believe the innovation, not seen at CU for most of the last decade, will be to use the TE down the seam.
 
McBuff24 said:
I know seen it mentioned specifically that our new offense is keeping part of its' scheme secret, especially regarding the use of tight ends. The media has hinted at it and Clay Patterson mentioned it as well. As long as we're not throwing TCU a bone, any guesses out there to what this could be? Lots of tight ends in the back field, aka a fullback? Wishbone sets (chuckles)?

FWIW, I do think it would be cool to see some innovation here!
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I don't know. Apparently, what was run at Minnesota the last 2 years was not the Sanford offense. It was him coordinating the Fleck offense. I'm guessing a lot of concepts from Shaw as a foundation.
 
Won't care if we have those one WR sets with 3 TEs as long as we keep moving the football and score more points.
 
BuffsNYC said:
Here it is, don't let it get out beyond this site.

Sometimes the TEs will block for the running game, other times they will go out for passes.
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The new twist is they will run patterns on rushes to draw the LB away and stay in pass pro on passing plays. They will also serve as holder for the punt squad.
 
leach was able to get traditionally less competitive offenses to be decent by simplifying the offense, not making it more complicated.

Coach Mac switched to the bone which every coach in america knows how to defend but rarely sees it properly executed. simple.

so, us going all crazy complex would be a possible outcome.

i am hoping we are going to run the ****ing ball with big sets right at the mother ****ers. grind grind grind. shorten the game, wear them down, fewer chances for errors. and eventually we will hopefully see a bigger, meaner, stronger, and more athletic offense that can force its will.
 
Not Sure said:
WCO in college is a disaster waiting to happen. It’s too complex and it’s rare that a team has the athletes to run it effectively. So, naturally. That’s what we are going to do here. What could possibly go wrong?
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Rather west coast (and some meagre hope), than no coast (read: clue/idea…your pick). Anything but history has glimmer of hope
 
One thing about the WCO is that it really simplifies OL assignments since it's area blocking on the move either left or right.

As far as how complex the playbook might be, Sanford did say that his system is more about being able to run the plays out of all formations & personnel groups rather than having a laundry list of different plays. That's also worked well in college to simplify things.
 
Buffnik said:
One thing about the WCO is that it really simplifies OL assignments since it's area blocking on the move either left or right.

As far as how complex the playbook might be, Sanford did say that his system is more about being able to run the plays out of all formations & personnel groups rather than having a laundry list of different plays. That's also worked well in college to simplify things.
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That reminds me of 62-36 where CU's players at the time said that they ran just six plays with all of those different formations. That would work for me.
 
PAC MAN said:
That reminds me of 62-36 where CU's players at the time said that they ran just six plays with all of those different formations. That would work for me.
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We don’t have anywhere close to the level of talent on that 2001 team. Graham, Hackett, Brown, Purify, Pessavento not to mention the OL with guys like Rogers and Gurode. You can run a simplified version of WCO when you have guys like that on your team who have had a few years to perfect their assignments. We don’t.
 
PAC MAN said:
That reminds me of 62-36 where CU's players at the time said that they ran just six plays with all of those different formations. That would work for me.
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A run offense is basically: Dive, Power, Sweep, Counter, Reverse.

Then you've got play action off the same look with your route trees.

Throw in a couple screen plays and you have an offense.
 
One thing I've noticed in the limited pictures we've seen is that the QB's eyes are always checking off of the linebacker or safety. That is what you are supposed to do with RPO, so I assume this offense is at least modernized with RPO on just about every play.

Past that, I wouldn't put much stock in some surprising aspect of this offense (other than being better than last year).
 
Buffnik said:
A run offense is basically: Dive, Power, Sweep, Counter, Reverse.
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patebuff said:
One thing I've noticed in the limited pictures we've seen is that the QB's eyes are always checking off of the linebacker or safety. That is what you are supposed to do with RPO, so I assume this offense is at least modernized with RPO on just about every play.

Past that, I wouldn't put much stock in some surprising aspect of this offense (other than being better than last year).
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2 things I love about RPO:

1. OL gives the same look on most every play, so it's hard for the defense to key off of stance or first step to know if you're running or passing.

2. No fullback pulls a defender out of the box and then the QB keys off a single read to know whether the best choice is to hand it off, pull it & run, or pull it and throw. OC can really set up a defense for a big play if orchestrated correctly. (Kind of like in triple option where the D has to stop that dive play first & if they have to adjust to do it then they've opened themselves up to get burnt.)
 
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