I don't think it's a coincidence that most of them are wearing disguises.That took some serious balls. I'm impressed.
I don't think it's a coincidence that most of them are wearing disguises.That took some serious balls. I'm impressed.
That creates an interesting incentive.BYU is making changes so that women who report rape are no longer subject to the honor code review.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brigham...igated-rape-victims-for-violating-honor-code/
Friday news dump continues.
Baylor regents said that when Mr. Briles was asked what he would have done differently, he broke down and wept. Many board members began to cry as well.
“He couldn’t speak he was so upset, and all of us were,” Mr. Gray said. “Art said, ‘I delegated down, and I know I shouldn’t have. And I had a system where I was the last to know, and I should have been the first to know.’ ”
Horrible stuff in there. I didn't think it could get worse.
As far as what happens next there is one interesting tid bit:
If this is accurate - he delegated much of how the players were handled in these situations - then why is the staff intact? It's outrageous.
and yet... only 1 person was fired and f*** bailer sits at 6-0, and #8 in the polls... No one seems to be too up in arms about this thing, especially in Waco. f***ing sick.Yep, Baylor just can't get out of their own way on this thing.
Oh, they're totally up in arms in Waco. Up in arms about being victims.and yet... only 1 person was fired and f*** bailer sits at 6-0, and #8 in the polls... No one seems to be too up in arms about this thing, especially in Waco. f***ing sick.
No one seems to be too up in arms about this thing,
Many other outrageous things in there as well- board members and Briles so upset "they wept", they "regret" what happened, yet admit no wrongdoing, did the bare minimum to address the situation, and seem to have no plan to fix this going forward.Horrible stuff in there. I didn't think it could get worse.
As far as what happens next there is one interesting tid bit:
If this is accurate - he delegated much of how the players were handled in these situations - then why is the staff intact? It's outrageous.
Many other outrageous things in there as well- board members and Briles so upset "they wept", they "regret" what happened, yet admit no wrongdoing, did the bare minimum to address the situation, and seem to have no plan to fix this going forward.
Briles - *weeping and looking over to the journalists, ensuring that they saw*
Board Members - *seeing his actions, weeping and ensuring that they also were seen to be upset*
Welp, solid meeting y'all, see you in church on Sunday. By golly, we're sad about what happened, but after we beat the longhorns tomorrow it looks like we've accomplished what we set out to accomplish. Boy do I feel a lot better after having a nice cry with my Uncle Ken and Uncle Art.
and yet... only 1 person was fired and f*** bailer sits at 6-0, and #8 in the polls... No one seems to be too up in arms about this thing, especially in Waco. f***ing sick.
Two things:Here's the original article, great title:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/baylor-...exual-assaults-by-football-players-1477681988
The fact that a paper like Wallstreet Journal published an expose on Baylor this far out from the firings is telling. Briles will likely never coach again. 19 players involved in sexual assaults, and gang rapes where the only non-football player involved is the unfortunate victim. Horrifying.
The sexual-violence scandal at Baylor University that cost its celebrated football coach his job involved 17 women who reported sexual or domestic assaults involving 19 players, including four alleged gang rapes, since 2011, according to Baylor regents.
Baylor players allegedly participated in what one regent calls a “horrifying and painful” series of assaults over several years. In at least one case, Baylor regents said, Mr. Briles knew about an alleged incident and didn’t alert police, the school’s judicial-affairs staff or the Title IX office in charge of coordinating the school’s response to sexual violence.
“There was a cultural issue there that was putting winning football games above everything else, including our values,” said J. Cary Gray, a lawyer and member of the Baylor board of regents.
The board members said their decision to fire Mr. Briles wasn’t merely because of the school’s requirements under Title IX, the federal law that has increased the requirements on universities to police sexual violence on campus.
“As he heard information, what did he do with it? From a moral standpoint, what is the right thing to do?” said Ron Murff, a Dallas businessman who is chairman of the board of regents.
Mr. Gray said, “football is just a fraction, but it is a bad fraction.” Football players were involved in 10.4% of Title IX-reported incidents in the four-year period ending in 2014-15, Baylor said.
Mr. Murff said other wealthy alumni suggested they would withhold millions of dollars if Baylor didn’t bring Mr. Briles back.
“It was all about football,” Mr. Murff said. “My response was that we felt like our fiduciary duty was to uphold the mission of the university. That was the primary objective. It was not just to win football games.”
Ernest Cannon of Stephenville, Texas, Mr. Briles’s lawyer, said Baylor appeared to be violating a nondisparagement clause that was part of the agreement the coach signed with the school in June in which the sides agreed not to litigate the terms of his departure.
What a standup guy. Don't drag me into this mess I created.Is a nondisparagement clause enforceable against statements of fact?
Some have been tried and convicted.I'm not well informed on this Baylor stuff, so forgive my not knowing this, but have any Baylor students been charged with a crime? I see a lot about civil suits, etc. Just too involved a story to follow for me, about a school I don't care about.
Some have been tried and convicted.
Some have been tried and convicted.
EDIT: I just realized who I was responding too. Obviously false reports.
Which, considering the jurisdiction, and the fact that some of them were football players, should tell you how bad the problem is in reality.Some have been tried and convicted.
I knowI asked because I was a CU fan during the Non-Scandal and an interested observer during Duke Lacrosse and Virginia Rolling Stone.
Which, considering the jurisdiction, and the fact that some of them were football players, should tell you how bad the problem is in reality.
To be clear, innocence and guilt is incidental in reality, in the case of baylor. This is really about the suppression of credible reports, and subsequent bullying of those that reported. Very, very different than the cases you referenced.I asked because I was a CU fan during the Non-Scandal and an interested observer during Duke Lacrosse and Virginia Rolling Stone.